U.S President: Donald Trump

Originally Posted by pip08456

But not always.

Agreed.

The evidence is there for all to see, except if one has a constant, negative and one-sided agenda.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Agreed.

The evidence is there for all to see, except if one has a constant, negative and one-sided agenda.

and the WH's daily press releases wouldn't be one sided ?? Best to listen to all sides, with the evidence and make up your own mind. Problem with Trump, he he has little evidence for anything, and isn't achieving anything.

[1andrew1]

I do agree that the Freedom Caucus is an issue for any Republican Politician to get legislation passed. It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Donald Trump has continued his attack against dozens of members of his own party, by urging his supporters to fight the influential Freedom Caucus.
Members of the conservative group effectively helped kill the White House-approved health care plan last week, sparking several attacks from the President on Twitter. And on Thursday, it was more of the same, with Mr Trump calling on his supporters to oppose Freedom Caucus members when they are up for re-election next year.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7658156.html

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

If there is much positive to report. Trump has had healthcare legislation fallen though and a travel ban struck down by the courts whilst the FBI is investigating the campaign. So it's not surprising there hasn't been a lot of good news.

You're referring to laws but there's more to a presidency than that, especially so early on in proceedings and given opposition to him on both sides. Are you seriously claiming that he's not done, said, achieved or been the instigator of anything positive for anyone in the last few months?

All we ever hear about him is negative whether it be fact, spin or pure conjecture and it's really tiresome. We hear all about protests but never about rallies in support, why is that I wonder...

I don't expect the papers to be unbiased but I expect a lot better of the BBC who clearly are biased in a number of areas, Trump being just one.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mr K

and the WH's daily press releases wouldn't be one sided ?? Best to listen to all sides, with the evidence and make up your own mind. Problem with Trump, he he has little evidence for anything, and isn't achieving anything.

Of course they will be one sided you fool.

They have an agenda just the same as the media have.

What any sensible person should do is see both and then come to a balanced conclusion.

You would then have both sides of a story rather than the trash that is onesided and presented to you.

Don't forget, I said in the beginning I don't like the man.

Originally Posted by Osem

You're referring to laws but there's more to a presidency than that, especially so early on in proceedings and given opposition to him on both sides. Are you seriously claiming that he's not done, said, achieved or been the instigator of anything positive for anyone in the last few months?

I think he has done very little good in the last few months. Outside of the laws he has also sparked a massive storm over his accusations Obama had his phone tapped and gone to his golf course most weekends. His security adviser had to resign.

He is not leading a stable or effective administration so far. Today he has been using twitter to have go at members of his own party. This week he told people on Twitter to watch a TV news program which went on to eviscerate Paul Ryan, the Republican leader of the house, and call for him ro resign.

All we ever hear about him is negative whether it be fact, spin or pure conjecture and it's really tiresome. We hear all about protests but never about rallies in support, why is that I wonder...

Because the rally at the weekend for example had 2,000 people in attendance whereas the one after his inauguration drew 400,000 in New York alone.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Of course they will be one sided you fool.

They have an agenda just the same as the media have.

What any sensible person should do is see both and then come to a balanced conclusion.

You would then have both sides of a story rather than the trash that is onesided and presented to you.

Don't forget, I said in the beginning I don't like the man.

I think calling someone a fool dullens your argument, however strong and persuasive your argument might be.

Originally Posted by Damien

Because the rally at the weekend for example had 2,000 people in attendance whereas the one after his inauguration drew 400,000 in New York alone.

That's not quite true. The rallies happened across ALL of the US, so it was way more than 2,000. It was 2,000 in just one area of Southern California alone (Which leans typically Democrat).

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Originally Posted by Mr K

and the WH's daily press releases wouldn't be one sided ??

I wouldn't know, I don't watch them religiously like you appear to do, I still live in the UK. US Domestic policy bears no relevance in my life and for you to have a constant negative agenda on Trump, I'd say you were a little obsessed paying too much attention to them in the first place.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

That's not quite true. The rallies happened across ALL of the US, so it was way more than 2,000. It was 2,000 in just one area of Southern California alone (Which leans typically Democrat).

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I wouldn't know, I don't watch them religiously like you appear to do, I still live in the UK. US Domestic policy bears no relevance in my life and for you to have a constant negative agenda on Trump, I'd say you were a little obsessed paying too much attention to them in the first place.

Lol - if anything Mick it's you that's a bit obsessed with US politics

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

That's not quite true. The rallies happened across ALL of the US, so it was way more than 2,000. It was 2,000 in just one area of Southern California alone (Which leans typically Democrat).

I'm genuinely trying to see why a few rallies in the US are newsworthy in the UK. Things like Trumpcare which tested Trump's power base were significant and the two failed Muslim bans which had international ramifications were important too. In my book, you'd have to possess an unusually keen interest in Trump to consider supporter rallies newsworthy.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Mr K

and the WH's daily press releases wouldn't be one sided ?? .

Yes.


But the questioning from reporters, especially the guy from CNN, gives another perspective.


Surely you listen to the official line, and then seek news outlets that are for and against the official line, and then make a judgement.


Anybody who depends on the BBC as the single source for Trump news wasting their time.

[TheDaddy]

Possibly interesting, wonder why you'd want immunity if you hadn't done anything wrong. Perhaps he's an attention seeker or they're just making things up again

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...probe-WSJ.html

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Possibly interesting, wonder why you'd want immunity if you hadn't done anything wrong. Perhaps he's an attention seeker or they're just making things up again

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...probe-WSJ.html

It broke on the US networks last night. He wants to testify. There was no mention that it was specifically about Trump Russia collaboration. That doesn't mean it isn't but the Mail have added to what was announced.

As far as I know he wasn't suspected of criminal involvement was he? They're right to avoid giving him immunity until they know more about what he might say. You'll only get immunity if you're giving them evidence on a bigger 'catch', last thing you want is grant him immunity only for him to testify that he was up to criminal activity but doesn't have information on anyone else!

[passingbat]

Jean-Claude Juncker threatens to campaign for Ohio's independence in revenge for Donald Trump backing Brexit


Ya gotta smile


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7659471.html