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				So the wall isn't happening, Obamacare staying and the arch criminal Hillary still at large.  It's almost as if he'd never been elected. 
			
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 That's not what that story says at all. Funding has been 'delayed'. Obamacare staying, isn't stopped either, need to go back to the drawing board and Republicans, ALL of them need to work together, as for Hillary for prison, hard to move forward with a prosecution when she has already been cleared by the FBI.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 22:07
			
			
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			If he's not doing what he claimed he would what are the usual anti-Trump suspects worrying about?  Anyone would think they secretly want him to build his wall, jail Clinton etc...    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 22:12
			
			
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				 as for Hillary for prison, hard to move forward with a prosecution when she has already been cleared by the FBI. 
			
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 Shame they couldn't have done that before the election. The timing was all very suspicious...
 
Problem for Donald is that the Republican party just doesn't back him and  he keeps talking about them as a separate entity . A lame duck President in charge of a lame duck country for 4 years. It's all worked out very well for Vladimir.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 22:18
			
			
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				If he's not doing what he claimed he would what are the usual anti-Trump suspects worrying about?  Anyone would think they secretly want him to build his wall, jail Clinton etc...     
			
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 Most of us that don't like Trump was sceptical of his promises in the first place. That said it is my preference he fails on those promises (unless he really can make Obamacare cheaper, better and without anyone losing insurance).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 22:38
			
			
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				Shame they couldn't have done that before the election. The timing was all very suspicious... 
 
Problem for Donald is that the Republican party just doesn't back him and  he keeps talking about them as a separate entity . A lame duck President in charge of a lame duck country for 4 years. It's all worked out very well for Vladimir. 
			
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 If you say so, inaccurate of course but a waste of time discussing things with someone who has a miserable outlook on absolutely everything.    
 
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				If he's not doing what he claimed he would what are the usual anti-Trump suspects worrying about?  Anyone would think they secretly want him to build his wall, jail Clinton etc...     
			
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			29-03-2017, 22:44
			
			
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			I must admit I don't like Trump at all but that's me he is not my President, I don't live there. 
Just for the hell of it I signed up for daily updates from the White House due to the amount of vitriol by both the press and some members of this forum.
 
I like to think outside the box look at all sides and come to my own conclusion, I may live in Wales but I'm not a sheep. (not Welsh either  ).
 
What has surprised me is what he has done (all verifiable) that you don't get to hear about in the media, the meetings he's had with industry leaders, unions and womens groups.
 
The media just seem to concentrate on the negative side.
 
I still don't actually like him but I wouldn't run him down in the way the media does.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 23:15
			
			
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				I must admit I don't like Trump at all but that's me he is not my President, I don't live there. 
Just for the hell of it I signed up for daily updates from the White House due to the amount of vitriol by both the press and some members of this forum.
 
I like to think outside the box look at all sides and come to my own conclusion, I may live in Wales but I'm not a sheep. (not Welsh either  ).
 
What has surprised me is what he has done (all verifiable) that you don't get to hear about in the media, the meetings he's had with industry leaders, unions and womens groups.
 
The media just seem to concentrate on the negative side.
 
I still don't actually like him but I wouldn't run him down in the way the media does.  
			
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 We're living in a world increasingly dominated by social media fixated bandwagon jumpers who behave like frenzied sheep and the media will always tend to focus on the negative.  I haven't dedicated much time to this subject but I can't recall reading/hearing anything positive about Trump on the BBC for example and that doesn't seem very balanced.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 23:20
			
			
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				So the wall isn't happening, Obamacare staying and the arch criminal Hillary still at large.  It's almost as if he'd never been elected. 
			
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Good job he's such a great closer though
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 23:30
			
			
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				We're living in a world increasingly dominated by social media fixated bandwagon jumpers who behave like frenzied sheep and the media will always tend to focus on the negative.  I haven't dedicated much time to this subject but I can't recall reading/hearing anything positive about Trump on the BBC for example and that doesn't seem very balanced. 
			
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 If there is much positive to report. Trump has had healthcare legislation fallen though and a travel ban struck down by the courts whilst the FBI is investigating the campaign. So it's not surprising there hasn't been a lot of good news.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				We're living in a world increasingly dominated by social media fixated bandwagon jumpers who behave like frenzied sheep and the media will always tend to focus on the negative.  I haven't dedicated much time to this subject but I can't recall reading/hearing anything positive about Trump on the BBC for example and that doesn't seem very balanced. 
			
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 Did you notice the two sheep who replied after you?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 23:48
			
			
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				I must admit I don't like Trump at all but that's me he is not my President, I don't live there. 
Just for the hell of it I signed up for daily updates from the White House due to the amount of vitriol by both the press and some members of this forum.
 
I like to think outside the box look at all sides and come to my own conclusion, I may live in Wales but I'm not a sheep. (not Welsh either  ).
 
What has surprised me is what he has done (all verifiable) that you don't get to hear about in the media, the meetings he's had with industry leaders, unions and womens groups.
 
The media just seem to concentrate on the negative side.
 
I still don't actually like him but I wouldn't run him down in the way the media does.  
			
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I've been doing that since he took office and most days watch the press briefings, including the questions as well.
 
If you want to know what is actually happening, it is a waste of time watching the BBC; they are even more biased against Trump than Brexit
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I've been doing that since he took office and most days watch the press briefings, including the questions as well. 
 
 
If you want to know what is actually happening, it is a waste of time watching the BBC; they are even more biased against Trump than Brexit 
			
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 I agree pb, it's all the media though not just the BBC.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			29-03-2017, 23:53
			
			
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				 whilst the FBI is investigating the campaign.. 
			
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They are also looking into surveillance and illegal unmasking of US citizens.  
 
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				 it's all the media though not just the BBC. 
			
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True.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-03-2017, 14:42
			
			
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			That's right - the entire media is against Trump, even Fox..... 
 
Try Occam's Razor sometimes - the simplest explanation is the most likely one (usually).
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				That's right - the entire media is against Trump, even Fox..... 
 
Try Occam's Razor sometimes - the simplest explanation is the most likely one (usually). 
			
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