WikiLeaks - Page 19

Mr K · 07-03-2017, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Mick

Wikileaks have released all kinds of info today, in which experts say at first glance looks genuine, 1000's of documents have been released detailing hacking tools and methods, so far, they are saying MI5 and CIA are routinely using Smart TV, iPhones, iPads, Microsoft systems to bug their targets...

http://news.sky.com/story/cia-cyber-...leaks-10793709

Bugger, I've got a Samsung smart tv. Now my views on the Trumpster are known to the CIA. They probably agree with me anyway

However, they probably got bored with the 7 series of 'All Creatures Great and Small' I just viewed on it, or maybe they're hooked with tales of Yorkshire veterinary life ?

1andrew1 · 07-03-2017, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Bugger, I've got a Samsung smart tv. Now my views on the Trumpster are known to the CIA. They probably agree with me anyway

I always wondered how Samsung were able to undercut Sony but still have the best technology. Now I know why, they've probably been subsidised by the CIA.

passingbat · 08-03-2017, 12:00

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I always wondered how Samsung were able to undercut Sony but still have the best technology. Now I know why, they've probably been subsidised by the CIA.

And more controversial speculation starts. Did Samsung know about this; were they in on it? Will sales of Samsung TV's plummet? Will there be law suits? What make of TV does Donald own...

Joking aside; this is serious stuff.

heero_yuy · 08-03-2017, 12:33

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Originally Posted by passingbat

And more controversial speculation starts. Did Samsung know about this; were they in on it? Will sales of Samsung TV's plummet? Will there be law suits? What make of TV does Donald own...

Joking aside; this is serious stuff.

So anything voice activated and net connected has to be considered suspect.

Modern version of what the butler saw.

Uncle Peter · 08-03-2017, 12:35

The leak documents suggest that the nasty men in black helicopters (in the case of MI5 probabaly a knackered old Astra Van) would have to break into your house and unload the malware via memory stick.

1andrew1 · 08-03-2017, 12:36

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Originally Posted by passingbat

And more controversial speculation starts. Did Samsung know about this; were they in on it? Will sales of Samsung TV's plummet? Will there be law suits? What make of TV does Donald own...

Joking aside; this is serious stuff.

Does remind me a bit of 1984.

Like others I'm not too surprised; the concern is if this type of ability gets into the wrong hands.

passingbat · 08-03-2017, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

The leak documents suggest that the nasty men in black helicopters (in the case of MI5 probabaly a knackered old Astra Van) would have to break into your house and unload the malware via memory stick.

But Smart TV's are connected to the internet; why the need for a memory stick?

Uncle Peter · 08-03-2017, 13:09

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Originally Posted by passingbat

But Smart TV's are connected to the internet; why the need for a memory stick?

Pay attention 007

Presumably this is the only viable attack vector poor old Q has managed to identify. Besides, I doubt they want this malware widely propagated in the wild that is assuming it does actually exist in the first place. Afterall if it's sitting on thousands of tv sets there's a good chance it can be found and dissected.

passingbat · 08-03-2017, 13:21

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

Pay attention 007

Presumably this is the only viable attack vector poor old Q has managed to identify. Besides, I doubt they want this malware widely propagated in the wild that is assuming it does actually exist in the first place. Afterall if it's sitting on thousands of tv sets there's a good chance it can be found and dissected.

I bow to your superior knowledge, 003.5

Osem · 08-03-2017, 13:30

Wonder if the spooks have already adopted alternative means by which to achieve the same end. Wouldn't it suit their purposes for everyone to be running around worrying about this stuff when it's already been superceded? Just a thought...

**Damien** · 08-03-2017, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

Pay attention 007

Presumably this is the only viable attack vector poor old Q has managed to identify. Besides, I doubt they want this malware widely propagated in the wild that is assuming it does actually exist in the first place. Afterall if it's sitting on thousands of tv sets there's a good chance it can be found and dissected.

The dump is largely unsurprising to be honest. Wikileaks have, as usual, over-hyped it. Essentially the story is that the CIA want to exploit any device they can.

Who would think they wouldn't be doing such a thing? Hell, even if they have no intentional to use these exploits in the wild (unlikely) they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they weren't attempting to learn of them if even for their own protection. Assange has being hyping 'Vault 7' for months.

Anonymouse · 08-03-2017, 13:53

I always thought the Max Headroom Two-Way Sampler system was a bit unlikely. Once again science fact catches up with science fiction...and once again, we'd much rather it didn't.

Good luck hacking my TV, though - 'cause I don't have one, ha-ha!!!

Uncle Peter · 08-03-2017, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Damien

The dump is largely unsurprising to be honest. Wikileaks have, as usual, over-hyped it. Essentially the story is that the CIA want to exploit any device they can.

Who would think they wouldn't be doing such a thing? Hell, even if they have no intentional to use these exploits in the wild (unlikely) they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they weren't attempting to learn of them if even for their own protection. Assange has being hyping 'Vault 7' for months.

Plus if the CIA and our friends out West at HMS Donut aren't doing it assume them pesky Russkies or those cheeky Chinese chappies will be trying to do precisely the same thing.

passingbat · 08-03-2017, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Osem

Wonder if the spooks have already adopted alternative means by which to achieve the same end. Wouldn't it suit their purposes for everyone to be running around worrying about this stuff when it's already been superceded? Just a thought...

Its already started; personal micro chipping. Ostensibly good reasons for doing so, but open to so much nefarious abuse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...echnology.html

techguyone · 08-03-2017, 14:04

If you value your privacy you might as well be aware that all this 'smart' stuff has the ability to spy on you, best of all you're paying for it. Imagine when we've all got Google Home Or Amazon Alex or whatever the latest in automation is, your conversations then have the potential to be recorded. Not saying they are sdo no need for tin foil hat, but the capability is there and we know that Govts are quite happy to exploit everything they can in the pursuit of security.