U.S President: Donald Trump - Page 45

nomadking · 06-03-2017, 07:42

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Originally Posted by nidave

The question which interests me.. what happens if proof comes out that Trump got Russia to influence the election. Hypothetically.. how would people react. I thought the Republicans were totally against Russia and the Russians

And how did Russia influence the election? At most by releasing the TRUTH. Any hacking attempts were no different to the ones the rest of us get on a routine basis.

papa smurf · 06-03-2017, 08:26

to me Clinton came across as deranged she didn't need any help to lose .

Mr K · 06-03-2017, 08:54

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

to me Clinton came across as deranged she didn't need any help to lose .

Where as Trump comes across as the sanest man alive...

Even his best buddy at the FBI is now calling for him to stop telling porkies.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc...s/amp/39148306

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FBI director James Comey has rejected Donald Trump's claim that his predecessor, Barack Obama, ordered a wiretap of his phone before he was elected US president, US media say.

nidave · 06-03-2017, 10:58

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Originally Posted by nomadking

And how did Russia influence the election? At most by releasing the TRUTH. Any hacking attempts were no different to the ones the rest of us get on a routine basis.

does that not call into question the election results if they did influence and tamper with things. I am no fan of Hillary - AT ALL - but I don't get how people can defend any hacking/interference if true.

nomadking · 06-03-2017, 12:23

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Originally Posted by nidave

does that not call into question the election results if they did influence and tamper with things. I am no fan of Hillary - AT ALL - but I don't get how people can defend any hacking/interference if true.

Still no evidence of them hacking anything in the first place.

Osem · 06-03-2017, 13:09

Given all the marches, riots, social unrest and predictions of far worse to come in the wake of Trump's appointment, I'd have thought the US would have been in a state of civil war by now or have I missed something? Where's all that outrage gone and how many of the 'celebs' who claimed they'd leave the US in disgust have done so I wonder...

1andrew1 · 06-03-2017, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Where as Trump comes across as the sanest man alive...

Even his best buddy at the FBI is now calling for him to stop telling porkies.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc...s/amp/39148306

I don't think that's the right link. This is though:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39175962

It's truly "awks" for the President now he's effectively been called a liar by an FBI director. His aim of deflecting attention from the Russian hacking and chats seems to have backfired.

**Mick** · 06-03-2017, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Osem

Given all the marches, riots, social unrest and predictions of far worse to come in the wake of Trump's appointment, I'd have thought the US would have been in a state of civil war by now or have I missed something? Where's all that outrage gone and how many of the 'celebs' who claimed they'd leave the US in disgust have done so I wonder...

Well, there were rallies in support of Trump all across the US over the weekend, involving thousands of people in various towns and cities, but you're not hearing about that in the mainstream media are you?

It's too positive news for their Anti-Trump rhetoric agenda.... In one of his latest tweets, Trump thanks them for their support, but you're not going to see it mentioned in the media.

Only being reported in 'local' news outlets:-

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2017/03/05...esident-trump/

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I don't think that's the right link. This is though:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39175962

It's truly "awks" for the President now he's effectively been called a liar by an FBI director. His aim of deflecting attention from the Russian hacking and chats seems to have backfired.

Rubbish.

1andrew1 · 06-03-2017, 13:21

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Originally Posted by Osem

Given all the marches, riots, social unrest and predictions of far worse to come in the wake of Trump's appointment, I'd have thought the US would have been in a state of civil war by now or have I missed something? Where's all that outrage gone and how many of the 'celebs' who claimed they'd leave the US in disgust have done so I wonder...

I think they're all feeling certain that the President won't last two years so are happily staying put.

**Mick** · 06-03-2017, 13:31

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think they're all feeling certain that the President won't last two years so are happily staying put.

Well we all know how much of their 'feelings' are irrelevant, their same feelings told them he would not become nominated and survive the Primaries, he became nominated, then their feelings told them he would not become the President, he became the President. Go figure....

Osem · 06-03-2017, 13:38

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think they're all feeling certain that the President won't last two years so are happily staying put.

Really? There was I thinking they actually meant what they said and did? All that bluster and concern was just so much hot air after all then. Quelle surprise...

I reckon a lot of them have already moved onto another bandwagon they can get all worked up about without risking their own privileged existences too much. Two years you reckon? Presumably the poor, desperate folks they said they were so fearful for can be left to suffer Trump for a couple of years while the great and the good bide their time and continue raking in the dollars. How very altruistic...

1andrew1 · 06-03-2017, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Mick

Well we all know how much of their 'feelings' are irrelevant, their same feelings told them he would not become nominated and survive the Primaries, he became nominated, then their feelings told them he would not become the President, he became the President. Go figure....

If we could ignore the situation about Russian hacking and Trump being contradicted by the FBI over phone-tapping of Trump Towers then I would totally agree with you.
Having met US residents before the election who said take Trump seriously he could win, I was not as surprised by the result as others. Those same US residents are now saying these two situations could be the beginning of the end of his Presidency.

**Mick** · 06-03-2017, 13:53

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Originally Posted by Osem

I reckon a lot of them have already moved onto another bandwagon they can get all worked up about without risking their own privileged existences too much.

You're going to love this story then today....

http://news.sky.com/story/barbra-str...ounds-10792313

Barbara Streisand: Donald Trump is making me pile the weight on...

Total non-story: FAKE NEWS...

The media will use absolutely anything if carries his name in the title.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If we could ignore the situation about Russian hacking and Trump being contradicted by the FBI over phone-tapping of Trump Towers then I would totally agree with you.
Having met US residents before the election who said take Trump seriously he could win, I was not as surprised by the result as others. Those same US residents are now saying these two situations could be the beginning of the end of his Presidency.

Wishful thinking by lefties and liberals who cannot accept the democratic result and are making up stories about Russian affiliation.

I don't believe ALL the stories in the press Andrew sorry, I don't follow them like lost sheep, like you and a few others do on this forum and I don't believe James Comey has made any such public or official statement to that effect.

The FBI don't normally discuss the inner workings or cases or potential cases publicly. They make announcements and that just has not happened that I see. At the end of the day, he is not going to dictate to his boss and tell him to stop lying, if Trump orders an investigation, I would say he has to obey him.

1andrew1 · 06-03-2017, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Mick

The FBI don't normally discuss the inner workings or cases or potential cases publicly. They make announcements and that just has not happened that I see. At the end of the day, he is not going to dictate to his boss and tell him to stop lying, if Trump orders an investigation, I would say he has to obey him.

It's been so widely reported that if it wasn't correct then it would have been denied by now.

passingbat · 06-03-2017, 14:09

Interesting interview with Mark Levin who was the person who arguably brought this to the public's attention via his radio show.

He quotes public newspaper sources including the Guardian and Washington Post as sources for the two FISA applications. The first one was rejected and the second, more focussed, accepted.

I think he's right that this needs a full investigation. Until that is done, I don't think we can trust the media, Left or Right, to give us unbiased reporting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2eu-B5ZNPs