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				Neither did Hilary or she'd be 'locked up' like the Trumpster promised the faithful. 
			
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 More nonsense. You really do need to do your research more.
 
Nothing was found because it was said she did not hand over ALL her emails to the investigation, she was also said to have lied many times over the issue. Not to mention her loving husband, Bill, spent 40 minutes talking on the back of a plane with the then US Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, days before the FBI was to conclude it's Investigation into Hillary's email scandal. 
 
Btw, It's Hillary with two LL's. There's me thinking you had an education the way you lambasted Brexiteers for not having any.    
 
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				Was Hillary prosecuted for breaking any laws about her emails?[COLOR="Silver"]
  
			
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			04-03-2017, 22:13
			
			
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				Austrian actor... 
			
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 He's a naturalised US citizen (has been for over 33 years).  
 
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				More nonsense. You really do need to do your research more. 
Nothing was found because it was said she did not hand over ALL her emails to the investigation, she was also said to have lied many times over the issue. Not to mention her loving husband, Bill, spent 40 minutes talking on the back of a plane with the then US Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, days before the FBI was to conclude it's Investigation into Hillary's email scandal. 
 
Btw, It's Hillary with two LL's. There's me thinking you had an education the way you lambasted Brexiteers for not having any.    
 
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 So, no, then...
 
Why doesn't Trump live up to his campaign promise to appoint a special prosecutor to  prosecute her?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-03-2017, 22:18
			
			
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Well, if everyone one in TV adhered to that dictum, a certain Reality TV star wouldn't be President now...    
			
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 Well nothing, that's bollocks. Trump did not use award ceremonies to hold his campaigns on. Here, have a wink back.    
 
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So, no, then... 
 
Why doesn't Trump live up to his campaign promise to appoint a special prosecutor to  prosecute her? 
			
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			04-03-2017, 22:22
			
			
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				Well nothing, that's bollocks. Trump did not use award ceremonies to hold his campaigns on. Here, have a wink back.    
 
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I don't know, wtf don't you ask him ?    
			
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			04-03-2017, 22:23
			
			
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				Why don't you? 
			
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 You brought it up, you ask him. I don't care.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2017, 22:25
			
			
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				 There's me thinking you had an education the way you lambasted Brexiteers for not having any.    
			
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  In fairness to Mr K, I genuinely feel you have perceived offence when none was given. He has not passed judgment on Brexiters, he has discussed the reported profiling of those who voted to leave v those who voted to remain. I think that's it's an interesting debate that people should be able to have without fear of offending anyone.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2017, 22:26
			
			
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				In fairness to Mr K, I genuinely feel you have perceived offence when none was given. He has not passed judgment on Brexiters, he has discussed the profiling of those who voted to leave v those who voted to remain. I think that's it's an interesting debate that people should be able to have without fear of offending anyone. 
			
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 He profiled nobody, here you go again with your 'profiling Brexiteer' crap.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2017, 22:28
			
			
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				Some companies have out sourced factories to countries with cheap labour. He has convinced some of those companies to instead build those factories in the US 
			
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 Those kinds of deals will not have been made in a few weeks, despite what Trump's administration says.   They would have negotiated every single detail of the deal, and they are likely to have taken months, not weeks.
 
As Mick says, what we are told is not necessarily the truth.  That runs true for the media, and it also runs true for the Trump Administration who have famously contradicted themselves, and established history in what they have stated.   They have also shown they have a frankly frightening habit of banning the media outlets who disagree with them rather than ignoring them.   Hitler's government started that way.
 
For democracy to work, we need a media that is free to question the incumbent administration.
 
Does Trump give a toss about democracy?   TBH, I think as long as he is in power, he doesn't give a toss about anything else.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2017, 22:28
			
			
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				In fairness to Mr K, I genuinely feel you have perceived offence when none was given. He has not passed judgment on Brexiters, he has discussed the reported profiling of those who voted to leave v those who voted to remain. I think that's it's an interesting debate that people should be able to have without fear of offending anyone. 
			
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 i don't feel swivel eyed loony is a compliment
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				You brought it up, you ask him. I don't care. 
			
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 In fairness to Trump, I thought he answered this when he said that it was better for the unity of the country not to pursue this option.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Wrong, get the story right Mr K...he used a private email account not a private server, which was perfectly legal and above board, while he was Governor of Indiana, he broke no laws. 
			
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 Depends what was discussed in the emails.  If, as I have read, he discussed the security gates at the governor's residence, he may well have been discussing something that is classified.   If that's the case, then yes, he did break the law.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Those kinds of deals will not have been made in a few weeks, despite what Trump's administration says.   They would have negotiated every single detail of the deal, and they are likely to have taken months, not weeks. 
 
As Mick says, what we are told is not necessarily the truth.  That runs true for the media, and it also runs true for the Trump Administration who have famously contradicted themselves, and established history in what they have stated.   They have also shown they have a frankly frightening habit of banning the media outlets who disagree with them rather than ignoring them.   Hitler's government started that way. 
 
For democracy to work, we need a media that is free to question the incumbent administration. 
 
Does Trump give a toss about democracy?   TBH, I think as long as he is in power, he doesn't give a toss about anything else. 
			
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 Many of those deals were re-announcements. Every company wants to present itself in alignment with the President. If green credentials are important then they'll brag about their green credentials, if US jobs are important then they'll talk up those jobs. 
There's a good analysis in a chart in the article below listing those which are down to Trump and those which aren't. The headline is a bit click-baity but the article is good.
 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...or-gm-wal-mart
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2017, 22:40
			
			
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				In fairness to Trump, I thought he answered this when he said that it was better for the unity of the country not to pursue this option. 
			
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 Well yes, I remember him saying that now so yes you are right, and I do actually agree with that stance.  
 
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				Depends what was discussed in the emails.  If, as I have read, he discussed the security gates at the governor's residence, he may well have been discussing something that is classified.   If that's the case, then yes, he did break the law. 
			
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 Personal email account use is/was allowed under Indiana law so I doubt it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2017, 22:41
			
			
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				He profiled nobody, here you go again with your 'profiling Brexiteer' crap.    
			
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 He discussed a report on the characteristics of those who voted in v out. He has not "lambasted Brexiteers for not having any." [education].   
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				He discussed a report on the characteristics of those who voted in v out. He has not "lambasted Brexiteers for not having any." [education] 
			
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 Mr K, has form when it comes to prejudices of Brexiteers, he has certainly lambasted them for his perceived views of them having no education, only the other day, he claimed they were living in cloud cuckoo land, but this is not the thread to keep going on about what Mr K's wrongful views are.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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