U.S President: Donald Trump

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Damien

Nuts. They're on to me. I knew it was a mistake to use the official logo of our secret organisation as my avatar.

So, is that a yes or a no?

I've said too much.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

I've said too much.

Come the revolution you'll be first up against the wall...

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Damien

People who generally support globalisation are not supporters of a New World Order.

The head honchos behind globalisation do.

Originally Posted by Mick

Ahh Gary Lineker, one of the many not very bright celebrity elitists, who preaches on and on that we should take in more immigrants/refugees, but as long as it's not quite near to where they live.

Is he not allowed an opinion?

Originally Posted by passingbat

The head honchos behind globalisation do.

Some people support more free trade, freedom of movement, consistent regulation. The NWO is a conspiracy that draws a lot from the previous conspiracy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by passingbat

They believe in mass migration for two reasons:

Cheap labour to further their profits

And probably more important in their view; to homogenise cultural identity, to strip away each countries unique identity, so that the yearning for their old cultural identity wanes over time, to 'stop the natives getting restless'


The EU federalised states of Europe is a shadow of their real intentions

I feel that needs repeating

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Is he not allowed an opinion?

Did I say he wasn't ? No.

What I do have an issue with is that the UK is being asked by celebrities, like him to take in many more refugees/immigrants, despite the fact that migration levels in the UK are at record levels already. We do not have the housing and the local resources, but that does not matter to celebrities like Gary, who live in their plush comfort zones, tweeting away like they are on some moral high ground mission, when that is quite literally far from the case.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Cheap labour to further their profits

That sounds very much like Trump to me, with his request for visas for his 1,100 immigrant workers.
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...n-workers.html
http://fortune.com/2015/08/03/donald...workers-visas/

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by passingbat

No one is suggesting that they do. But all most people see is the BBC's analysis. People, if serious about this, should get the official report direct from the source (including reporters questions) then listen to the BBC and make up their own mind.


I don't know if the BBC aired the part where Trump spoke to the reporter about black community leaders and his keenness to speak to them but was being prevented by Democrat interference. If they didn't, the BBC should have, because they are constantly inferring that he is racist.

The FBI is at it now, releasing stuff inferring that his dad was a colossal racist

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7583851.html

Tbf it does make you wonder why they're being released now

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The FBI is at it now, releasing stuff inferring that his dad was a colossal racist

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7583851.html

Tbf it does make you wonder why they're being released now

Looks like someone made a FOI request.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Looks like someone made a FOI request.

That they were only to happy to oblige

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That sounds very much like Trump to me, with his request for visas for his 1,100 immigrant workers.
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...n-workers.html
http://fortune.com/2015/08/03/donald...workers-visas/

I would have no issue with Trump being questioned on that.


One thing the article says is that they are seasonal workers, and the employer has to prove that no US citizens will take the jobs. Do you know if he did not manage to prove that?


In the UK, from a Brexit perspective, immigration is to be controlled, not banned. There will be certain job areas where immigration is needed; seasonal jobs could be one area along with some skilled jobs. Alongside this, training of British people in these skills is required; this was seen as not so important, when there was a large pool of European workers.


But for you to equate this limited term immigration, of a small number of people, with the point I was making re the globalists reason for mass, uncontrolled immigration is simply ludicrous.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I would have no issue with Trump being questioned on that.

One thing the article says is that they are seasonal workers, and the employer has to prove that no US citizens will take the jobs. Do you know if he did not manage to prove that?

In the UK, from a Brexit perspective, immigration is to be controlled, not banned. There will be certain job areas where immigration is needed; seasonal jobs could be one area along with some skilled jobs. Alongside this, training of British people in these skills is required; this was seen as not so important, when there was a large pool of European workers.

But for you to equate this limited term immigration, of a small number of people, with the point I was making re the globalists reason for mass, uncontrolled immigration is simply ludicrous.

My point is not whether or not these seasonal workers are a good thing or not. It's that you can't compartmentalise people into two simple categories derived from a conspiracy theory. Trump does many things that people would consider pro-globalisation and this is just one of them.

I just don't know what controls will occur post-Brexit but I certainly think that training the UK workforce is vitally important whatever controls we do or don't have in the future.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I feel that needs repeating

Originally Posted by passingbat

They believe in mass migration for two reasons:

Cheap labour to further their profits

And probably more important in their view; to homogenise cultural identity, to strip away each countries unique identity, so that the yearning for their old cultural identity wanes over time, to 'stop the natives getting restless'

The EU federalised states of Europe is a shadow of their real intentions

Oh yes