U.S Election 2016

Originally Posted by papa smurf

judge Donnelly, who was nominated by former president Barack Obama...
wonder how well this intervention will be received by the new administration .

And was approved by the US Senate 95-2...

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...n=1&vote=00279[COLOR="Silver"]

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Originally Posted by ianch99

I am disappointed in Mrs May in not standing up the Orange One. If you appease a bully it just goes to increase his sense of validation.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

when did he bully her

He didn't say Trump bullied May - he said Trump was a bully.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And was approved by the US Senate 95-2...

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...n=1&vote=00279[COLOR="Silver"]

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He didn't say Trump bullied May - he said Trump was a bully.

who has he bullied then

Originally Posted by papa smurf

who has he bullied then

Ask him - I was commenting on your conflated assertion, not his statement...

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

who has he bullied then

Why Hillary of course...

[1andrew1]

A visit to Buckingham Palace may be interesting for Donald Trump!

He and Prince Charles are in dispute about climate change.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7551701.html

Trump's comments about Diana would not have gone down too well in the Palace either.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-Charles.html

Kate Middleton would not be too impressed with his 2012 tweet "Who wouldn't take Kate's picture and make lots of money if she does the nude sunbathing thing. Come on Kate!"
http://evoke.ie/extra/donald-trump-w...kate-middleton

Well, with all the furore over extreme vetting and the legality of the Executive Order, how long before we have another Operation Northwoods? (especially with the removal from the National Security Council, as permanent members (so removing oversight) the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Director of National Intelligence).

I mean, what could possibly go wrong when you replace the most senior Military and Intelligence leaders as permanent members of the NSC with an extreme right-wing political operative?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, with all the furore over extreme vetting and the legality of the Executive Order, how long before we have another Operation Northwoods? (especially with the removal from the National Security Council, as permanent members (so removing oversight) the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Director of National Intelligence).

I mean, what could possibly go wrong when you replace the most senior Military and Intelligence leaders as permanent members of the NSC with an extreme right-wing political operative?

the way i heard it the bush administration destroyed the twin towers and blamed muslims - what was that operation southwoods

I mean whilst he has a policy in place that bans their own citizens based on your country of origin I don't see the justification in giving him the full state visit. By all means he should visit but not get the full honorary treatment.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

I mean whilst he has a policy in place that bans their own citizens based on your country of origin I don't see the justification in giving him the full state visit. By all means he should visit but not get the full honorary treatment.

and that's why you don't work for the diplomatic services

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

I mean whilst he has a policy in place that bans their own citizens based on your country of origin I don't see the justification in giving him the full state visit. By all means he should visit but not get the full honorary treatment.

He's the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet. No matter what you think of him personally it is necessary to butter him up with the full monty. It can only improve our chances of a good trade deal. Sometimes you have to hold your nose.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

He's the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet. No matter what you think of him personally it is necessary to butter him up with the full monty. It can only improve our chances of a good trade deal. Sometimes you have to hold your nose.

Which is understandable if it wasn't for the fact that we have our own MPs banned and citizens if they're born in one of those places. That has to stop. We have a duty to our citizens first.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

A visit to Buckingham Palace may be interesting for Donald Trump!

He and Prince Charles are in dispute about climate change.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7551701.html

Meh

Trump's comments about Diana would not have gone down too well in the Palace either.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-Charles.html

Meh

Kate Middleton would not be too impressed with his 2012 tweet "Who wouldn't take Kate's picture and make lots of money if she does the nude sunbathing thing. Come on Kate!"
http://evoke.ie/extra/donald-trump-w...kate-middleton

PHWOARRR!

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Which is understandable if it wasn't for the fact that we have our own MPs banned and citizens if they're born in one of those places. That has to stop. We have a duty to our citizens first.

The welfare of citizens all around the globe is frequently sacrificed as a result of political expediency. HMG fails to intervene in all sorts of cases in which the political repercussions would be severe. Sad but true.

[Ramrod]

Times columnist and author India Knight has called for the assassination of U.S. President, Donald J. Trump Whilst I think "called for" is stretching it a bit, as someone in the comments said "Imagine what would happen to Tommy Robinson for inciting murder like this"

Originally Posted by Osem

The welfare of citizens all around the globe is frequently sacrificed as a result of political expediency. HMG fails to intervene in all sorts of cases in which the political repercussions would severe. Sad but true.

Yes. We have to be pragmatic and realistic. I don't think we can place absolute morality above all else which is why I am not suggesting we can ban him outright. But here our own citizens are banned from visiting, some even from returning home because they were born in the wrong place. Mo Farah, a man we made a a British knight, is banned because he was born in Somila. A Tory MP, whose name I cannot spell and I'm on my phone, is banned.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere. This isn't normal. We're not talking about immigration controls here. We're talking about pure racism and discrimination.

So he can come because he is President of the United States and that's how it goes. But he doesn't get the honour, the pomp and circumstance, of a state visit. He is not a friend of who we are.

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Times columnist and author India Knight has called for the assassination of U.S. President, Donald J. Trump Whilst I think "called for" is stretching it a bit, as someone in the comments said "Imagine what would happen to Tommy Robinson for inciting murder like this"

Quite.

Advocating the murder of others, however bad they are, is both sick and incompatible with liberal democracy. Even if you take out the immorality of it it achieves nothing.

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Come to think of it it's also borderline illegal. I don't know what she actually said and am on my phone but is braitbart isn't lying (quite possible) than it's illegal to call for the assassination of people.