Post-Brexit Thread

[Osem]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

How dare those leave-voting hairdressers sabotage what they voted for!

... and how do you know what they actually voted for? Got any proof?

I voted to stay in but I've seen the error of my ways and now want out. Do you believe me?

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Anyway after suffering Obama trying so hard not to influence our referendum that he just had to tell the UK it'd be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if we dared to ignore him, it seems the mood may have changed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38600102

Yes, the UK might just be at the head of the queue now - sounds just as unequivocal doesn't it...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Maybe he woke up and smelled the coffee?

And it was good!

[1andrew1]

Potentially good post-Brexit news for the City of London

EU negotiator wants 'special' deal over access to City post-Brexit

The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator has shown the first signs of backing away from his hardline, no compromise approach after admitting he wants a deal with Britain that will guarantee the other 27 member states will continue to have easy access to the City.

Michel Barnier wants a “special” relationship with the City of London after Britain has left the bloc, according to unpublished minutes seen by the Guardian that hint at unease about the costs of Brexit on continental Europe.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...ty-post-brexit

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Potentially good post-Brexit news for the City of London

EU negotiator wants 'special' deal over access to City post-Brexit

The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator has shown the first signs of backing away from his hardline, no compromise approach after admitting he wants a deal with Britain that will guarantee the other 27 member states will continue to have easy access to the City.

Michel Barnier wants a “special” relationship with the City of London after Britain has left the bloc, according to unpublished minutes seen by the Guardian that hint at unease about the costs of Brexit on continental Europe.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...ty-post-brexit

I think that can be arranged

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think that can be arranged

Indeed; where do we sign?

If true it looks like the City's desired access can be sorted quite quickly and given how important that is to the UK's economy that would be a result. I suspect that we'll have to make concessions in other areas in exchange for control over immigration but we'll be more willing to concede those areas of the economy I would imagine.

In fact given the desire on all sides to avoid instability wouldn't it be great to have a City of London deal signed within a few months while the real work starts after?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

If true it looks like the City's desired access can be sorted quite quickly and given how important that is to the UK's economy that would be a result. I suspect that we'll have to make concessions in other areas in exchange for control over immigration but we'll be more willing to concede those areas of the economy I would imagine.

In fact given the desire on all sides to avoid instability wouldn't it be great to have a City of London deal signed within a few months while the real work starts after?

Agreed. I do wonder if Mark Carney knew this when he talked about the Brexit risk to the EU recently?

[Kursk]

Amateur baiting. You two are very naughty boys

No the EU is starting to realise that the UK actually has strengths that they cannot replicate easily or cheaply and once the UK's main contribution ends they have to make up that shortfall. Now the dutch are saying freedom of movement needs radical reform and claim falling support for the current system and a few cracks are showing in the EU facade. People keep saying our government wants time because it has no plan I'm starting to think they want time for the cracks to show which only strengthens our negotiating position.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

No the EU is starting to realise that the UK actually has strengths that they cannot replicate easily or cheaply and once the UK's main contribution ends they have to make up that shortfall. Now the dutch are saying freedom of movement needs radical reform and claim falling support for the current system and a few cracks are showing in the EU facade. People keep saying our government wants time because it has no plan I'm starting to think they want time for the cracks to show which only strengthens our negotiating position.

It'll be a number of factors I reckon, including those. I've always said that far too many people have concerned themselves only with the UK's problems and overlooked (conveniently or otherwise) the EU's far more serious issues.

The Eurocrats don't like admitting their failures, mistakes or the fundamental flaws in their strategy for Europe. It doesn't surprise me one jot therefore that they carry on talking the tough talk as if the UK will be the only loser if they fail to compromise. They certainly won't be advertising all the private conversations with/pressure from worried German car makers and the like who'll be panicking about the possibility of not coming up with a sensible trade deal with the UK. What does surprise me is the number of people here who don't seem to realise this but believe that the EU has the whip hand and would sell the UK short to remain part of such a club. May needs to be resolute and carry on doing what she's doing. There are going to be errors of judgement along the way but what we can't afford to do is undermine our own objectives and shoot ourselves in the foot.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Potentially good post-Brexit news for the City of London

EU negotiator wants 'special' deal over access to City post-Brexit

The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator has shown the first signs of backing away from his hardline, no compromise approach after admitting he wants a deal with Britain that will guarantee the other 27 member states will continue to have easy access to the City.

Michel Barnier wants a “special” relationship with the City of London after Britain has left the bloc, according to unpublished minutes seen by the Guardian that hint at unease about the costs of Brexit on continental Europe.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...ty-post-brexit

It looks like reality is finally beginning to dawn on the EU! Why has it taken them so long?

[1andrew1]

Pound slumps to 1980s levels as May defies will of the people* and opts for hard Brexit

Theresa May to lay out clean break from EU

Theresa May will test the nerves of currency markets on Tuesday when she declares that Britain is making a clean break from the EU and will not seek a deal that leaves the country “half in and half out”.

Mrs May’s comments will be seen as confirmation that Britain is leaving the single market — sometimes referred to as “a hard Brexit” — although she will leave open the door to the UK opting back in to parts of the customs union.

The pound briefly fell below the $1.20 mark on Monday — a level at which the currency has not regularly traded since 1985 — as markets prepared for Mrs May’s speech. The prime minister’s previous Brexit interventions have typically led to a fall in the pound.
Google headline or subscriber link at https://www.ft.com/content/8d94b1b2-...c-be108f1c1dce

* http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7530576.html

[Pierre]

She didn't defy my will

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Pierre

She didn't defy my will

Nor mine. Starting from such a strong position is a good way to get what you want especially as the EU appears to be softening.

[papa smurf]

she's implementing the will of the people not defying it we voted out .