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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I gave Netflix and Amazon as examples, MM. They are certainly the main players with global clout in the UK for the time being, but obviously things may change over time. I fully expect HBO to make its presence felt in the UK before much longer. |  I'm sorry but I disagree what about Discovery , Fox , Viacom , Disney to name a few.
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		|  13-01-2017, 14:47 | #1082 |  
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					Originally Posted by muppetman11  I'm sorry but I disagree what about Discovery , Fox , Viacom , Disney to name a few. |  Well, we will see how this all works out. They are global players as they distribute their channels around the world, but their share of the market in terms of the number of subscribers they attract is likely to diminish while they continue to rely on the conventional model of broadcasting their content.
 
I guess that sooner or later the content owned by these providers will find their way onto their own dedicated streaming sites in the UK and elsewhere outside the US, and if this does indeed happen, I would be inclined to agree with you on that.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I fully expect HBO to make its presence felt in the UK before much longer. |  
It's been here for several years via Sky Atlantic.
 
Unless Sky decide to drop their current deal, which runs out in 2020 (highly unlikely), there it will stay.
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		|  13-01-2017, 15:27 | #1084 |  
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					Originally Posted by passingbat  It's been here for several years via Sky Atlantic.
 
 Unless Sky decide to drop their current deal, which runs out in 2020 (highly unlikely), there it will stay.
 |  Of course, PB, but I was referring to an on demand HBO site like Netflix.
 
Clearly, the existing contractual arrangements with Sky need to be honoured, but 2020 is only 3 years away, and my guess is they will be designing their site now in order to be ready by then. 
 
Incidentally, there's nothing to stop them from creating a site right now and offering their content on a pay per view basis, as far as I know.
 
John Malone seems to have the right idea. I wonder when the acquisition of Startz and Lionsgate will start to benefit VM and LG subscribers?
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Of course, PB, but I was referring to an on demand HBO site like Netflix. 
Clearly, the existing contractual arrangements with Sky need to be honoured, but 2020 is only 3 years away, and my guess is they will be designing their site now in order to be ready by then. 
 
Incidentally, there's nothing to stop them from creating a site right now and offering their content on a pay per view basis, as far as I know.
 
John Malone seems to have the right idea. I wonder when the acquisition of Startz and Lionsgate will start to benefit VM and LG subscribers?
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You will never have a HBO streaming site whist HBO have a deal with Sky. I expect an announcement of a renewed Sky/HBO deal significantly prior to 2020.
 
Who want's PPV for HBO type content? Not many I suspect; it works out way more expensive than a subscription streaming service.
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					Originally Posted by passingbat  You will never have a HBO streaming site whist HBO have a deal with Sky. I expect an announcement of a renewed Sky/HBO deal significantly prior to 2020.
 
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					Originally Posted by passingbat  You will never have a HBO streaming site whist HBO have a deal with Sky. I expect an announcement of a renewed Sky/HBO deal significantly prior to 2020.
 
 Who want's PPV for HBO type content? Not many I suspect; it works out way more expensive than a subscription streaming service.
 |  Judging by the sheer number of PPV services out there, I guess it must pay!
 
HBO is reviewing the way it operates, so don't bet your pants on a new deal with Sky.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Judging by the sheer number of PPV services out there, I guess it must pay!
 HBO is reviewing the way it operates, so don't bet your pants on a new deal with Sky.
 |  Oh dear with that type of prediction you might need to eat your hat before long.   
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			http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/Live-...big-growth.php
Live linear OTT set for big growth
With online video competition significantly increasing in mature payTV markets, new research forecasts that live linear OTT video services will grow to some $7 billion of worldwide revenue by 2021.
 
This will be from a base of $1 billion in 2016, says ABI Research, as service providers are decreasing marketing on their cable, satellite, and IPTV products that offer managed quality of service in favour of new products that use OTT technologies to compete with Amazon and Netflix. The most recent OTT service launch is DirecTV Now, an AT&T national product with live linear TV.
 
"These services meet the consumer demand for anytime, anywhere programming and mobile-centric viewing while targeting a larger national audience," says Sam Rosen, Managing Director and Vice President at ABI Research. "The services fit within carriers adopting mobile-first mindsets."
 
As mobile video consumption increases, mobile operators are exploring policy-based approaches to meet customer expectations and manage the effects of video services on mobile data caps. 
 
The technical challenges are so significant that many operators made significant investments in technology platforms. AT&T/DirecTV purchased Quickplay Technologies to gain better control of its OTT launch. Even so, some outages occurred as the platform scaled. Disney took an equity stake in BAMTech (formerly MLB Advanced Media) to have better strategic control over its syndication platform.
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			Is this the beginning of the end for linear TV channels?http://www.thejournal.ie/discovery-c...06618-Jan2017/
...In a statement to Variety, a Sky spokesperson said: “Despite our best efforts to reach a sensible agreement, we, like many other platforms and broadcasters across Europe, have found the price expectations for the Discovery portfolio to be completely unrealistic. Discovery’s portfolio of channels includes many which are linear-only, where viewing is falling.
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			It maybe just me but I've never found the PQ quite as good on programmes that are streamed rather than 'broadcasted'.
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  It maybe just me but I've never found the PQ quite as good on programmes that are streamed rather than 'broadcasted'. |  BT is streamed and is superb quality. 
Grey area here real debrid on kodi gives 1080p quality. 
NBCsports imo is better pq than sky sports hd. 
Also 've found xfinity streamed channels to be superb quality many times beating broadcast quality.
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Is this the beginning of the end for linear TV channels?http://www.thejournal.ie/discovery-c...06618-Jan2017/
...In a statement to Variety, a Sky spokesperson said: “Despite our best efforts to reach a sensible agreement, we, like many other platforms and broadcasters across Europe, have found the price expectations for the Discovery portfolio to be completely unrealistic. Discovery’s portfolio of channels includes many which are linear-only, where viewing is falling.
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Still posting to that same narrow old  remit of yours again  OB.  |  Seeing is believing, Den...
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