VOD The future for linear TV channels - Page 70

passingbat · 31-12-2016, 14:57

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Originally Posted by denphone

And your proposed option would make it even dearer IMO.

Thankfully, John Whittingdale was booted out under the May Government. so hopefully the BBC will be less under threat from the people that Old Boy identifies with.

muppetman11 · 31-12-2016, 15:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

There's more to TV than the BBC.

Don't forget, there are other ways to fund the BBC. There could be a non subscription option with commercials, it could be funded centrally by Government, etc. I really don't understand this obsession with the licence fee, which poorer sectors of the population find really difficult to afford and which is costly and unwieldy to enforce.

Read the post I quoted

You know the one that you mentioned a subscription model in

The post I quoted made no other mention to any methods other than subscription hence my comment of people still having to pay for the privilege of watching TV.

heero_yuy · 31-12-2016, 15:18

The licence fee will go, but by a process of attrition. There are positive feedback mechanisms at work. As more people refuse to pay, enforcement is spread thinner and thinner. As people realise they are less likely to be caught and also the knowledge of how to avoid the enforcers becomes more widespread, more and more will refuse to pay. Also more people will use alternative services that are not covered by the TV licence and they will not see the need to pay it.

This may well happen faster than many think possible IMHO.

TheDaddy · 31-12-2016, 22:58

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Originally Posted by denphone

And your proposed option would make it even dearer IMO.

Not for me it wouldn't

Mad Max · 01-01-2017, 03:52

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not for me it wouldn't

Or me, Den is deluded....

denphone · 01-01-2017, 06:37

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Or me, Den is deluded....

Well l know that anyway MM.

TheDaddy · 01-01-2017, 08:44

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well l know that anyway MM.

See, completely deluded

passingbat · 01-01-2017, 08:58

I think that scraping licence fee or an alternate way of public funding is very short sighted, and would lead to an American style TV system. Quality Drama and the broad spectrum of minority interest viewing that the BBC produces would only be available via a pay TV, not to mention the educational output the BBC produces.

Considering the vast services that the BBC produces; TV, Radio, news, web services etc. I think it's a bargain at around £12/month. And I do understand, that for some people, that is difficult to afford. But the alternative would be more expensive.

It's public service broadcasting. And, with all public service provisions, not everyone benefits from a specific service. But for the country as a whole, it's a good and necessary service.

Raider999 · 01-01-2017, 15:23

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Originally Posted by passingbat

I think that scraping licence fee or an alternate way of public funding is very short sighted, and would lead to an American style TV system. Quality Drama and the broad spectrum of minority interest viewing that the BBC produces would only be available via a pay TV, not to mention the educational output the BBC produces.

Considering the vast services that the BBC produces; TV, Radio, news, web services etc. I think it's a bargain at around £12/month. And I do understand, that for some people, that is difficult to afford. But the alternative would be more expensive.

It's public service broadcasting. And, with all public service provisions, not everyone benefits from a specific service. But for the country as a whole, it's a good and necessary service.

BBC is PayTV - as you say costs around £12 pm.

The difference is you can choose to subscribe to sky, BT, virgin etc whilst legally there is no choice but to pay license fee or not watch tv at all.

passingbat · 01-01-2017, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Raider999

BBC is PayTV - as you say costs around £12 pm.

The difference is you can choose to subscribe to sky, BT, virgin etc whilst legally there is no choice but to pay license fee or not watch tv at all.

And how much does ITV cost you per month? We don't know because it's added to the price of products to pay for the TV adds.

pip08456 · 01-01-2017, 16:15

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Originally Posted by passingbat

And how much does ITV cost you per month? We don't know because it's added to the price of products to pay for the TV adds.

So I TV pay for TV ads?

Raider999 · 01-01-2017, 16:21

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Originally Posted by passingbat

And how much does ITV cost you per month? We don't know because it's added to the price of products to pay for the TV adds.

Costs me nothing - entirely your choice if you watch ads or not and entirely your choice if you buy things you see in ads.

My point was lack of personal choice re funding of BBC - it ought to stand on it's own 2 feet even if that means having ads the same as ITV.

passingbat · 01-01-2017, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Raider999

and entirely your choice if you buy things you see in ads.

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The only way to avoid paying for ITV adds, is to monitor all the adds on ITV and then buy alternative products. Hardly a five minute job. You could always make ITV an add free subscription only service I suppose. That would be really popular!

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Originally Posted by pip08456

So I TV pay for TV ads?

No, the cost of the adds for the product is added on to the price of the product to claw some of it back.

Unless you steel content via piracy, you pay for content one way or the other; via adds adding to the cost of the advertised product, subscription or licence fee in the case of the BBC.

theone2k10 · 01-01-2017, 17:55

My prediction is in the near future the UK will adopt what some other countries are doing regarding a tv license, the cost will get added in taxes.
But imo BBC should be subscription not force a fee upon us, we choose if to buy products or not the comercial channels advertise they don't send sales reps (yes tv license officers are just that sales reps) to try and intimidate us into buying their product, nor do itv,ch4 etc send threatening letters that are designed to cause alarm and distress in the way they are worded, BBC should go subscription or advertise like everyone else does.

heero_yuy · 01-01-2017, 18:24

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

My prediction is in the near future the UK will adopt what some other countries are doing regarding a tv license, the cost will get added in taxes.
But imo BBC should be subscription not force a fee upon us, we choose if to buy products or not the comercial channels advertise they don't send sales reps (yes tv license officers are just that sales reps) to try and intimidate us into buying their product, nor do itv,ch4 etc send threatening letters that are designed to cause alarm and distress in the way they are worded, BBC should go subscription or advertise like everyone else does.

Yes. We gave up subsidising others viewing years ago. Can't remember when a TVL bozo last called.