04-12-2016, 13:55
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Originally Posted by Damien
Everyone is responsible for how they treat each other. You can't blame others for your own actions.
Anyway back on topic. Johnson is playing down the idea of continuing to make EU payments: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38200112
It's not clear because by definition overpaying to the EU would be paying too much but if we pay the correct amount that seems fine  |
So it looks like a swing toward soft brexit. Just to remind everyone, that means everything stays exactly the same as it is now but we leave in name only and lose both our representation in the European Parliament and our national veto.
In layman's terms, this is a bit like giving everyone in the pub the finger and announcing you're leaving, then sulking on your own in the beer garden drinking whatever the regulars deign to send out to you.
So certainly less insane than hard brexit as it may not cause economic self-immolation (probably just some severe burns), but a very high level of stupidity nonetheless.
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04-12-2016, 14:12
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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So let's hope johnny pie can put it better than you because you didn't make a good job of it at all.
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Did you watch his video?
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So it looks like a swing toward soft brexit. Just to remind everyone, that means everything stays exactly the same as it is now but we leave in name only and lose both our representation in the European Parliament and our national veto.
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That's what I'm scared of happening.
It needn't have to but if the remoaners keep carping on and obstructing the process then it just might. 
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04-12-2016, 17:49
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Far-right candidate in Austria defeated: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro...e=news_central
Might Italy also be spared the populist revolt? Probably not but the polls overestimated Hoffer
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04-12-2016, 17:59
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Originally Posted by Damien
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they will get whatever the democratic process delivers .
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04-12-2016, 18:58
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
they will get whatever the democratic process delivers .
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Well yes but what will that be? Looks like a No vote which would be the bigger of the two votes in Europe today.
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04-12-2016, 19:11
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Well yes but what will that be? Looks like a No vote which would be the bigger of the two votes in Europe today.
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its another close one ,Europe's established political party's will have to up their game if they want to sell their brand and bring home the big win's .
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04-12-2016, 21:47
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Originally Posted by Damien
Well yes but what will that be? Looks like a No vote which would be the bigger of the two votes in Europe today.
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It will be whatever, and I'm sure the good decent people of those countries will respect the result. Its so sad within the UK people are unwilling to respect democracy.
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04-12-2016, 22:00
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Renzi has already called a press conference for an hour after the polls close....can't be a good sign for him...
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04-12-2016, 23:07
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Looks like No will win easily, the press conference is presumably for Renzi to concede and maybe even resign.
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05-12-2016, 01:19
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Yep renzi is gone don't think he'll be the last things are changing for better or worse we will have to see.
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05-12-2016, 08:23
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
when is the re run - the no side obviously didn't understand what they voted for 
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05-12-2016, 12:36
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Labour's Brexit bill amendments likely to delay Article 50
"The Labour leader was at pains to say it was not about stopping Brexit, as had been suggested by his predecessor Tony Blair.
"You can't say to people 'you vote, you take the decision. Sorry, you've made the wrong decision. You've got to take it again'."
"It is still Labour's position that it will not block Article 50, but it will try to insist on plans being published for new trading arrangements and protection of social rights."
http://news.sky.com/story/labours-am...le-50-10681748
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05-12-2016, 12:44
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
"Protection of social rights" is SOLELY a matter for the UK government, whoever is in power, and should be nothing to do with the EU.
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05-12-2016, 12:55
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Originally Posted by nomadking
"Protection of social rights" is SOLELY a matter for the UK government, whoever is in power, and should be nothing to do with the EU.
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I think Corbyn is looking to guarantee that these rights are not taken away from people when we leave the EU. In the short term, I'm sure that will happen.
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05-12-2016, 13:55
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
Return of the empire seriously is there any sensible person that's even muttered that after brexit because I've heard no one even mention the empire outside of historical debates in the last two decades.
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Perhaps that is because the "Empire" no longer exists. The Commonwealth does though
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I think Corbyn is looking to guarantee that these rights are not taken away from people when we leave the EU. In the short term, I'm sure that will happen.
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On what basis do you draw that conclusion?
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