London's New Runway - Zac Goldsmith loses seat to Liberals

[techguyone]

I agree with Damien, I think Lib Dems will pick up spectacularly in the next GE, given how tired much of the country is with Conservatives & the complete absence of credibility from Labour, I'd say they are in a fantastic position moving forward.

(I'm not a lib dem supporter btw)

To be clear I think they'll aim for 30-40 seats.

I think it will take longer then one election for the country to forget what sellouts the lib dems were when they had a sniff of power and the rabid pro EU stance will also be a turnoff. Labour are and will continue being a joke as long as corbyn and his ilk are around but rather then swathes of traditional labour voters going over to the lib dems or ukip they will just stay home and not vote at all. Despite all his effort Farron comes across to me personally as untrustworthy and false and he hasn't won back the few lib dem voters i know but time will tell.

[techguyone]

sniff of power was about right, lets be honest here, given the power dynamic they didn't really have much more than a sniff of power in the coalition, don't talk like they ran the show.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I think it will take longer then one election for the country to forget what sellouts the lib dems were when they had a sniff of power and the rabid pro EU stance will also be a turnoff.

It won't be a turnoff to those who'll vote Lib Dem. 48% of people voted Remain. They can do nicely out of that. They're not aiming to win an election but regain some seats.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Damien

To be clear I think they'll aim for 30-40 seats.

I may be wrong but weren't you wrong about about Scottish independence, wrong about brexit and wrong about President Trump's election? I think we can be assured this prediction shouldn't yet be carved on a stone slab.

Now don't get uppitty, it's just a little bit of fun

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

The Lib Dems have been out performing the national polls so it's hard to know what is happening. For them though this is about some semblance of recovery, they'll be delighted to get back to even half of where they were.

A good judge of it will be if we have several more by-elections and then one might be able to see if there is a recovery of their core vote.

Originally Posted by denphone

A good judge of it will be if we have several more by-elections and then one might be able to see if there is a recovery of their core vote.

Yeah not sure we're going to see a general election for now

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yeah not sure we're going to see a general election for now

If the remoaners manage to scupper Brexit or it ends up as a dogs dinner of half way out things may well change.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If the remoaners manage to scupper Brexit or it ends up as a dogs dinner of half way out things may well change.

Tbh if the government continues to hint towards a EEA bespoke deal then Remainers may well hold back and think fair enough.

I never said or hinted they ran the show hence my use of the phrase "sniff of power" they reported a few compromises they got but we all knew they didn't amount to much and they sold out on a couple of their election pledges, so calm down and don't read more into something then is there.

Originally Posted by denphone

A good judge of it will be if we have several more by-elections and then one might be able to see if there is a recovery of their core vote.

Bye-election results are rarely reflected in a General Election.

Yeah how many times have people talked about surges or a rising support for a party after a by election victory it's never happened in general elections and i don't think lib dems should get their hopes up over this.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If the remoaners manage to scupper Brexit or it ends up as a dogs dinner of half way out things may well change.

Outstanding viewpoint - if you don't get what you want, it's someone else's fault, and all Brexiteers have nothing to do with it.

It works for remain supporters.