Polluting vehicles could be charged £200 to enter our city centres - Page 2

Kursk · 02-12-2016, 12:07

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yes go electric

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33569460

Happy birthday Daddy!

Taf · 02-12-2016, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Stephen

It's not ripping people off. It's about trying to protect the environment.

It's about not having to pay fines imposed by the EU.

Odd that the traffic is often being diverted away from the places where the monitoring stations are situated.....

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Hmmm... that's lot of pollution...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-street.html

nomadking · 02-12-2016, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Don't use a high polluting vehicle then

Go electric lol

And cause power cuts for everybody due to excessive demand.

It's about diesel vehicles only and might not include private cars.

Osem · 02-12-2016, 14:17

Yeah they'd be the same diesel vehicles HMG was encouraging us all to buy but a few years ago in their quest against CO2. Odd how things change...

heero_yuy · 02-12-2016, 14:23

Funny how fleets of knackered old diesel busses and trains churning out clouds of filth are never mentioned. Yet it's always Joe Public's own cars that are to blame. Still once a milch cow, always a milch cow.

tweetiepooh · 02-12-2016, 15:08

London it works well because the public transport system is present and runs "all" hours, covers large areas. It may be creaking but it is there. So charge people to drive in with appropriate exceptions. I always thought the charge should be higher than the public transport alternative. So if an average train and tube cost around £50 that should be the minimum congestion charge. (I know price can vary on distance/time of day, it's an example for distance you would drive in for the day, maybe back at time of introduction.)

Other cities don't have that public transport covering. And it's hard to get it in to the same extent. Why run bus/train when there are no passengers? Why use public transport that doesn't run when you need it, especially true if you don't work "standard" hours?

techguyone · 02-12-2016, 15:25

I don't get it, private cars, yes I understand, plus high emission performance petrol vehicles too, but to penalise commercial vehicles is just....

There's a reason why you don't see electric lorries or petrol ones for that matter.

Electric isn't yet advanced enough for anything heavier than a car, that's why anything bigger than a medium SUV and above is generally diesel. If they are going to cripple cities by penalising and perhaps eventually banning? (Paris, Madrid, Rome & one other I forget) are all considering this.

There better be one hell of a good electric tram/freight infrastructure in place so that businesses can get supplies etc.

Maybe we'll just make anything bigger than a village housing only and see how well that works out for us all.

Sirius · 02-12-2016, 15:42

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Originally Posted by denphone

For once Mr K l find myself agreeing with you.

And me.

pip08456 · 02-12-2016, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Sirius

And me.

Me too!

Kursk · 02-12-2016, 17:01

Tesla Model 3 prices should be out soon. No need to buy the polluting, cheat device European stuff any more. Goodbye BMW, Audi, VW etc; we said we were Leaving.

GrimUpNorth · 02-12-2016, 17:23

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Originally Posted by techguyone

I don't get it, private cars, yes I understand, plus high emission performance petrol vehicles too, but to penalise commercial vehicles is just....

There's a reason why you don't see electric lorries or petrol ones for that matter.

Electric isn't yet advanced enough for anything heavier than a car, that's why anything bigger than a medium SUV and above is generally diesel. If they are going to cripple cities by penalising and perhaps eventually banning? (Paris, Madrid, Rome & one other I forget) are all considering this.

There better be one hell of a good electric tram/freight infrastructure in place so that businesses can get supplies etc.

Maybe we'll just make anything bigger than a village housing only and see how well that works out for us all.

We had this in Leeds just over 6 years ago:

http://www.lowemissionstrategies.org...xhibition.html

Cheers

Grim

pip08456 · 02-12-2016, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Kursk

Tesla Model 3 prices should be out soon. No need to buy the polluting, cheat device European stuff any more. Goodbye BMW, Audi, VW etc; we said we were Leaving.

We all know the Europeans cheat!

Compensated US buyers but not UK ones. Another EU cheat?

Hom3r · 02-12-2016, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Don't use a high polluting vehicle then

Go electric lol

I bought a diesel because I was told it's better economy and better for the environment, so I feel I should get some compensation as I have been mis-sold.

Electric cars are just as bad as the electricity come from polluting power stations, plus the batteries are just as bad to get rid of.

Also I couldn't charge it as I don't have a drive and I cannot guarantee parking outside my house thanks to the idiots who park work vans down my street and walk to the next street.

Arthurgray50@blu · 02-12-2016, 22:32

Kursk. I do cycle eight hours a dayin my job. But l drive a caar to work. All this is arip off by local council to raise funds.

The CC in London is a rip off any way. And everyone is London gets it.

When you go to a club, bar, cinema and a shop. They increase costs to cover the charge made by the delivery companies. So everyone Pays.

And when you park - you get ripped off by parking attendants.

I made a delivery in London, and it cost me a FIVER for about five minutes to deliver to a nearby shop - and that comes out the drivers pocket.

Even BT employ a guy to go and pay parking fines as Parking attendants target there vans, as they know they are on a winner

pip08456 · 03-12-2016, 00:05

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Kursk. I do cycle eight hours a dayin my job. But l drive a caar to work. All this is arip off by local council to raise funds.

The CC in London is a rip off any way. And everyone is London gets it.

When you go to a club, bar, cinema and a shop. They increase costs to cover the charge made by the delivery companies. So everyone Pays.

And when you park - you get ripped off by parking attendants.

I made a delivery in London, and it cost me a FIVER for about five minutes to deliver to a nearby shop - and that comes out the drivers pocket.

Even BT employ a guy to go and pay parking fines as Parking attendants target there vans, as they know they are on a winner

It cost you a fiver to park your bicycle?!!!