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[RB2004]

[QUOTE=MisterQ;35872968]Sir Richard Branson just in the last few days saying how he attributes all of his success to listening more than speaking.[QUOTE]

That's rich of him to say that, don't want to turn this political but over 50% voted to leave... and instead of listening to that he wants to bankroll a campaign to overturn it.. wouldn't call that listening to the people.

Originally Posted by Jong1

I can't imagine Sky are the slightest bit bothered by the V6. It's the very least Virgin could possibly announced and IMO (I respect anyone who disagrees) a massive damp squib.

- Same size HDD as the TiVo, announced 6 years ago
- Same number of tuners as TiVo announced for their Roamio in 2013
- A relaunch of "the box for apps" idea that was tried and failed with the original TiVo 6 years ago
- 4K capable, yes, but that pretty much comes for free with any chipset in late 2016
- No 4K content that UHD TV owners will not have already. Not even a 4K version of Virgin Movies to go up against Amazon Video, Sky Store and others
- No multi-room strategy, other than pay for more full blown boxes
- A hobbled tablet for TV viewing, when tablet viewing has already been commonplace for years

I really can't see how there is anything here that is either "brilliant" or "game changing".

Yes, I bey their lawyers are taking a good look at Virgin Medias claim "Virgin Media today lifted the cover off of its new connected entertainment line-up delivering the UK’s best and most advanced TV service."

[Jong1]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think they're missing a trick with no 4K PAYG movies, this looks like something easier to pull off than a deal for Amazon, BT Sport or Sky Sports.

Absolutely! Amazon and Sky already have them. Google Play will imminently. There is nothing stopping this, for movies Virgin have rights to, other than Virgin's lack of interest/investment.

It re-enforces the view that 4K is a tick-list item that came pretty much for free on the V6 and, as Virgin said themselves, they don't view 4K as important to their target customers. And it's hard to read that in any other way than Virgin accept premium TV customers are going to go to Sky anyway and they have more modest ambitions for their service. But I'm repeating myself, I'd better stop, or risk being thought a Sky plant!

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by RB2004

That's rich of him to say that, don't want to turn this political but over 50% voted to leave... and instead of listening to that he wants to bankroll a campaign to overturn it.. wouldn't call that listening to the people.

Hardly fair, 52% of people voted "leave" when "leave" hadn't been clearly defined as to it's meaning.

Leave what? The EU? The Single market? Freedom of movement? What exactly did those 52% of people want, exactly?

Hardly fair to say it's clear cut.

Would have much rather he spent his money educating people before the vote, though.

[QUOTE=RB2004;35872976][QUOTE=MisterQ;35872968]Sir Richard Branson just in the last few days saying how he attributes all of his success to listening more than speaking.

That's rich of him to say that, don't want to turn this political but over 50% voted to leave... and instead of listening to that he wants to bankroll a campaign to overturn it.. wouldn't call that listening to the people.

Does make you wonder about all the price rises:

According to the email, Virgin, the company founded and run by Sir Richard Branson, has pledged at least £25,000 towards the costs of the campaign. Other businessman, financial investors and campaign specialists are also involved.

Although there are contradictory claims.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7430396.html

[muppetman11]

Have you seen the price of a 4K rental on Sky Q not something I'd ever bother with.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Have you seen the price of a 4K rental on Sky Q not something I'd ever bother with.

No, how much?

[nialli]

Originally Posted by Jong1

Absolutely! Amazon and Sky already have them. Google Play will imminently. There is nothing stopping this, for movies Virgin have rights to, other than Virgin's lack of interest/investment.

It re-enforces the view that 4K is a tick-list item that came pretty much for free on the V6 and, as Virgin said themselves, they don't view 4K as important to their target customers. And it's hard to read that in any other way than Virgin accept premium TV customers are going to go to Sky anyway and they have more modest ambitions for their service. But I'm repeating myself, I'd better stop, or risk being thought a Sky plant!

So much negativity!
Virgin announced the Virgin Store yesterday, although it's not launching until February:

Also launching in February is the new Virgin Media Store, an app for TiVo boxes and iOS and Android.
It's your familiar download-to-own store that'll stock movies and TV series not typically available on Virgin Media's content packages. Shows like Game of Thrones and Billions will be available out of the gate, as will movies in the first out-of-cinema window. Should you buy a movie, Virgin Media will also send you a physical copy of the film, mimicking Sky's Buy & Keep movie store.

I would expect VM to test demand for 4k by putting any 4k content in there, much like they did with 3D.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Have you seen the price of a 4K rental on Sky Q not something I'd ever bother with.

Yep pretty pricey l hear MM even for one as wealthy as your good self.

[1andrew1]

[QUOTE=MisterQ;35872981][QUOTE=RB2004;35872976]

Originally Posted by MisterQ

Sir Richard Branson just in the last few days saying how he attributes all of his success to listening more than speaking.

Does make you wonder about all the price rises:

According to the email, Virgin, the company founded and run by Sir Richard Branson, has pledged at least £25,000 towards the costs of the campaign. Other businessman, financial investors and campaign specialists are also involved.

Although there are contradictory claims.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7430396.html

Virgin Media just pays a licence fee to Virgin Group, the same way that the publishers of The Sun, News UK, pay a licence fee to use the Virgin Radio brand and Universal Music pay a licence fee to use the Virgin Records brand.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by nialli

So much negativity!
Virgin announced the Virgin Store yesterday, although it's not launching until February:

I would expect VM to test demand for 4k by putting any 4k content in there, much like they did with 3D.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion though even though l generally disagree with much of their sentiments.

[Jong1]

Originally Posted by nialli

So much negativity!
Virgin announced the Virgin Store yesterday, although it's not launching until February:

I would expect VM to test demand for 4k by putting any 4k content in there, much like they did with 3D.

Yes, because for the reasons listed, this product is anything but game changing. I defy anyone to argue differently! "OK", maybe, but not worthy of any hype.

Regarding 4K download, I'm sure something will come in time, but lack of any mention at the big launch of a "game-changing" 4K box is just.....weird!

I genuinely hoped Virgin had something up their sleeves and there would be something in the announcement that went beyond the leaked info we had already seen. Sadly, there was nothing.

[mot12]

Originally Posted by Jong1

Yes, because for the reasons listed, this product is anything but game changing. I defy anyone to argue differently! "OK", maybe, but not worthy of any hype.

Regarding 4K download, I'm sure something will come in time, but lack of any mention at the big launch of a "game-changing" 4K box is just.....weird!

I genuinely hoped Virgin had something up their sleeves and there would be something in the announcement that went beyond the leaked info we had already seen. Sadly, there was nothing.

Lets spin this another way. What can SKYQ do that the V6 can't. ? What does skyq have that is "game changing" when compared to the V6. ?

---------- Post added at 13:28 ---------- Previous post was at 13:23 ----------

Sky are just better at marketing, they are good at pulling wool over peoples eyes. Making thing's seem/sound better than they actually are. Realistically if you are on top packages, using the companies best equipment and services that are available. There is not much difference at all, between sky and virgin.

[mcgillca]

Originally Posted by Kabaal

You can use both IR and Bluetooth remotes with it.

That's great to hear - how did you find out? I've talked with technical support, and they told me they wouldn't know that until the box was released.

Colin