Post-Brexit Thread

I like this idea: http://news.sky.com/story/uk-could-p...rexit-10678735

The UK could pay EU contributions for access to the single market as part of its exit deal, the Brexit Secretary has said.

David Davis said as part of the divorce deal with the EU "of course" the Government would consider paying money to retain access to the single market.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Damien

I like this idea: http://news.sky.com/story/uk-could-p...rexit-10678735

Admin type costs would be one thing, but the bulk of payments are to prop up the rest of the EU. The rest of the EU gets access to the UK market. If it was a one-sided deal, then a payment would balance things out, but it's not one-sided.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

I like this idea: http://news.sky.com/story/uk-could-p...rexit-10678735

Yes that is certainly much more agreeable.

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by Osem

Really and how long is that going to last do you think compared to the value of Gold? Yeah I'd really rather have a vault full of Euros than a vault full of gold bullion...

it was meant as a joke, try to take it as such

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

I like this idea: http://news.sky.com/story/uk-could-p...rexit-10678735

The irony about this sort of deal is that the EU pays into the EU budget, accepts its legislation but cannot influence the legislation.

But the bigger picture is this - are Boris Johnson and David Davis preparing people for a soft Brexit with freedom of movement and paying into the the EU coffers? This will go down well with a lot of the country but not Farage and friends.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The irony about this sort of deal is that the EU pays into the EU budget, accepts its legislation but cannot influence the legislation.

I'm not sure that we'd have to accept it's legislation (apart from certain manufacturing standards of goods for the EU market and such like)
We wouldn't have to accept immigration legislation etc and would be able to trade with the rest of the world

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I'm not sure that we'd have to accept it's legislation (apart from certain manufacturing standards of goods for the EU market and such like)
We wouldn't have to accept immigration legislation etc and would be able to trade with the rest of the world

We wouldn't have to accept the social chapter stuff.

If we would have to accept immigration would depend on the deal although I imagine we would have that as a red line. If it's membership or very close to that then I suspect we would remain in the customs union and therefore no trade with the rest of the world other than those with an existing EU deal. It goes back to the 'Member of' vs 'Access to' debate.

[Ramrod]

Yep. The more I look at it the more I think that they should have invoked article 50 straight away and stuff the consequences.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Yep. The more I look at it the more I think that they should have invoked article 50 straight away and stuff the consequences.

It would focus people's minds on what needed to be agreed rather than faffing around, like at the moment.

Trade deals take a long time and they involve impositions upon your national laws and regulations. It would be the same even if we left, severing all existing ties, and then tried to regain it afterwards.

[Kursk]

Bah, this thread is full of remoaners grasping at mummy's EU apron strings because it is their only, feeble hope .

Brexit means Brexit. Out means out. The exit arrangements can be mutually beneficial or not; the EU can decide and we'll go about our business with the rest of the world.

Let the Walloons or some other mob cut off the European nose to spite its face. Remoaners and Walloons are good bedfellows: tyrannical minorities.

We don't want soft anything; we don't need to suck up to continentals. The majority voted for out and that is what we will have, nothing less.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

It would be the same even if we left, severing all existing ties, and then tried to regain it afterwards.

At least then everyone would be looking forwards, to the future and actually making deals etc
Rather than what we have now - remoaners trying to slow down or scupper brexit or shouting "tell us what brexit will look like"....as if the govt has a crystal ball.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Yep. The more I look at it the more I think that they should have invoked article 50 straight away and stuff the consequences.

And not worry about all the retired Brits living on the Continent? That's a bit risky isn't it?

If we had a better idea of what it looked like then we would have a clearer idea of what to do. Asking for what it looks like isn't an unreasonable request.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

And not worry about all the retired Brits living on the Continent? That's a bit risky isn't it?

I am confident both EU citizens here and UK citizens there will be fine. Purely from a logistics point of view it's too difficult to do anything else.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Bah, this thread is full of remoaners grasping at mummy's EU apron strings because it is their only, feeble hope .

Brexit means Brexit. Out means out. The exit arrangements can be mutually beneficial or not; the EU can decide and we'll go about our business with the rest of the world.

Let the Walloons or some other mob cut off the European nose to spite its face. Remoaners and Walloons are good bedfellows: tyrannical minorities.

We don't want soft anything; we don't need to suck up to continentals. The majority voted for out and that is what we will have, nothing less.

Love the trolling

Looks like your "Brexit Means Brexit" Government ministers don't agree with you:

David Davis: UK may pay for access to EU single market

Boris Johnson tells ambassadors he 'supports freedom of movement'