Post-Brexit Thread

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Did you read the article ?

Yes.

Originally Posted by pip08456

These legal challenges (or threat of) are doing nothing other than attempting to override the democratic will of the majority. The Government has stated it respects the result of the referendum and will invoke article 50.

It's about time remoaners accepted that. Let them get on with it and give them room to negotiated the best deal for this country instead of trying to hamstring them.

What's annoying me is that remoaners are complaining about the lack of an exit strategy and the time it will take ,has it occurred to them that if they just let the government carry on exercising the will of the majority then they will be able to formulate a strategy and get the job done in a timely manner .All these court cases and attempts to stop Brexit will only hurt the country ,possibly more than brexit will ever do

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by martyh

What's annoying me is that remoaners are complaining about the lack of an exit strategy and the time it will take ,has it occurred to them that if they just let the government carry on exercising the will of the majority then they will be able to formulate a strategy and get the job done in a timely manner .All these court cases and attempts to stop Brexit will only hurt the country ,possibly more than brexit will ever do

1) there is no exit strategy
2) still needs to be legal, this isn't a blank canvas "to do what they want"

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

These legal challenges (or threat of) are doing nothing other than attempting to override the democratic will of the majority. The Government has stated it respects the result of the referendum and will invoke article 50.

It's about time remoaners accepted that. Let them get on with it and give them room to negotiated the best deal for this country instead of trying to hamstring them.

The legal challenge I referenced is not about Article 50 but about Articles 127 and 128 which are about the EEA.
I'm no lawyer but I think the Government should win this case. I can't see how the UK can remain in the EEA without an agreement on how much it contributes to the EU. I hope it does as this will be better for the UK.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

1) there is no exit strategy
2) still needs to be legal, this isn't a blank canvas "to do what they want"

then stop trying to prevent it ,let the government get on with it

[Anypermitedroute]

I'm holding nothing up, awaiting for that bill to be put through parliament so it's all done legally

Anyway we going to be "even more closer" to Poland post brexit so stuff is happening
PM: UK 'to be even closer to Poland' after Brexit
http://news.sky.com/story/pm-uk-to-b...rexit-10676095

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The legal challenge I referenced is not about Article 50 but about Articles 127 and 128 which are about the EEA.
I'm no lawyer but I think the Government should win this case. I can't see how the UK can remain in the EEA without an agreement on how much it contributes to the EU. I hope it does as this will be better for the UK.

We cannot remain in the EEA as we are not in the EEA. We are presently in the EU.

Membership of the EEA is something that may be negotiated during the negotiations of our EU exit.

Someone's been caught with documents again: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...P=share_btn_tw

Britain is unlikely to be able to remain a member of the single market, according to a document photographed in the hands of a senior Conservative official on Downing street.

A handwritten note, carried by an aide to the Tory vice-chair Mark Field after a meeting at the Department for Exiting the European Union, could be seen to say: “What’s the model? Have your cake and eat it.”

It also suggests that a deal on manufacturing should be “relatively straightforward” but admits that services are harder.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

We cannot remain in the EEA as we are not in the EEA. We are presently in the EU.

Membership of the EEA is something that may be negotiated during the negotiations of our EU exit.

Where are you getting your information from? If you're a member of the EU you're a member of the EEA. https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Where are you getting your information from? If you're a member of the EU you're a member of the EEA. https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea

what if you leave the EU what are you a member of then ?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

what if you leave the EU what are you a member of then ?

Good question and that's what this potential legal challenge is about.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Good question and that's what this potential legal challenge is about.

i have in front of me a copy of dodgy Dave's pamphlet [the 8 million quids worth of explanation] it says
no other country has managed to secure significant access to the single market without having to
follow eu rules over which we have no real say

pay into the eu

accept eu citizens living and working in their country .......it goes on to explain a canada type deal which at the time was still in negotiation after 7 years

"this is your decision the government will implement what you decide"
what not clear about leaving?? the remain campaign spelled it out at considerable length and cost ?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by pip08456

These legal challenges (or threat of) are doing nothing other than attempting to override the democratic will of the majority. The Government has stated it respects the result of the referendum and will invoke article 50.

It's about time remoaners accepted that. Let them get on with it and give them room to negotiated the best deal for this country instead of trying to hamstring them.

Nah, that's just more swivel eyed paranoid Brexiteer nonsense don't you know. There's no way that anyone on the pother side would dare to try to derail the process now, it just isn't happening except in your imagination. The only people moaning are people like you, everyone else who wanted to remain has completely accepted the outcome of the referendum and won't do anything to undermine it...

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Originally Posted by martyh

Then you should have paid more attention to such an important subject .When we leave the EU we leave the single market ,that was made clear by Brussels ,we leave the single market we end freedom of movement .We can of course decide for ourselves how much freedom of movement we want to accept in the future ,that is the beauty of leaving the EU ........we get to decide not Brussels

So simple isn't it. Pity that there's no educating some folks...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

what not clear about leaving?? the remain campaign spelled it out at considerable length and cost ?

I think you're referring to the UK Government's official advice and not the Remain Campaign.
As we all know, the referendum had a number of weaknesses in its structure - one being that it was only advisory. There may be other issues which the courts will have to decide. That's because British Law works on precedents and there's not many of these around when it comes to leaving the EU.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think you're referring to the UK Government's official advice and not the Remain Campaign.
As we all know, the referendum had a number of weaknesses in its structure - one being that it was only advisory. There may be other issues which the courts will have to decide. That's because British Law works on precedents and there's not many of these around when it comes to leaving the EU.

"this is your decision the government will implement what you decide"

that's not advice is it .