Migrant found GUILTY of Raping boy 5, given Rehabilitation Order

[Ramrod]

I was all for the death penalty (a few years back). That was until I researched the inns and outs of it's deterrance etc.
It doesn't deter criminals from committing crimes and there is the problem of executing an innocent person......which does happen.
Not in favour

The talk of reinstating the death penalty would go away if life actually meant life if you take a life you should spend the rest of yours locked up not the twisted way it is now where people get more prison time for robbery's then murder.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

The talk of reinstating the death penalty would go away if life actually meant life if you take a life you should spend the rest of yours locked up not the twisted way it is now where people get more prison time for robbery's then murder.

That is what the public were promised when the death penalty was abolished, that life would mean life, if they knew then what we'd have today they would never have countenanced it's abolition

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Originally Posted by Mick

Oh we're so posh and over precious aren't we ?

I thought it more funny than precious but each to their own I guess

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mick

Oh we're so posh and over precious aren't we ?

No he's "educated" didn't you know?

Wow!

When did being 'educated' become derogatory?

Doctors are 'educated', scientists are 'educated' - without them, we would be in a pretty poor place...

When did lack of knowledge become a positive thing?

Like with all things Hugh it's how it's demonstrated that usually decides positive or negative and this forum is often a good example.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Like with all things Hugh it's how it's demonstrated that usually decides positive or negative and this forum is often a good example.

Mr K is.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

In the past few days it appears that there has been widespread abuse of young footballers, with more and more coming out each day:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/s...3#post35871733

I don't think that the perpetrators should be executed though.

If they'd been raping 5 YEAR OLDS yhey should

Originally Posted by Hugh

Wow!

When did being 'educated' become derogatory?

Doctors are 'educated', scientists are 'educated' - without them, we would be in a pretty poor place...

When did lack of knowledge become a positive thing?

They're classed as 'experts' and members of 'the elite'. For some reason the idea of other people being an authority on a subject is seen as undemocratic and arrogant. Look at vaccines, global warming, warnings over sugar etc. The view of a Doctor on vaccines is treated just as worthy as the view on vaccines from someone who studied English at Oxford. It's how Melanie Phillips took on the entire medical profession over vaccines simply by dismissing them all as elites, she knew better.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by OhReally

If they'd been raping 5 YEAR OLDS yhey should

You've omitted to quote the reason I gave for my belief ie that the perpetrator is more likely to kill the child to permanently silence them through murder if they fear being executed if caught.

A child at least has a chance to recover from their ordeal and get on with their life with the right support if they are kept alive.

For those looking for revenge, I think that being imprisoned for a long time is much more of a punishment than being quickly and painlessly executed (which is how our society would do it in the unlikely event that the death penalty was reintroduced). They will be labeled as a 'Nonce' and I imagine will be bullied by other prisoners (there is a hierarchy even in prison) or have to stay in solitary confinement for their own safety.

For those like me who believe in the afterlife, their spirit/soul will become free (though what happens to them for doing such an wicked thing on Earth is a subject for another thread).

For those who believe that death is the end, it will all go black, they will have no consciousness and will have effectively got away with no punishment.

[pip08456]

I talked to a homeless man this morning and asked him how
he ended up this way.

He said, "Until last week, I still had it all. I had plenty to eat,
my clothes were washed and pressed, I had a roof over my
head, I had TV and internet, and I went to the gym every day.
I even had a swimming pool and an excellent library nearby.
I was working on-line on my degree. I had no bills and no debts.
I even had full medical and dental coverage."

I stood there and thought ‘how sad that he's now come down
to this’, so I asked,
"So, what happened? Drugs? Alcohol? A bad divorce?"



"Oh no, nothing like that," he said. "No, no. I've just been
released from prison."

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I talked to a homeless man this morning and asked him how
he ended up this way.

He said, "Until last week, I still had it all. I had plenty to eat,
my clothes were washed and pressed, I had a roof over my
head, I had TV and internet, and I went to the gym every day.
I even had a swimming pool and an excellent library nearby.
I was working on-line on my degree. I had no bills and no debts.
I even had full medical and dental coverage."

I stood there and thought ‘how sad that he's now come down
to this’, so I asked,
"So, what happened? Drugs? Alcohol? A bad divorce?"



"Oh no, nothing like that," he said. "No, no. I've just been
released from prison."

Wonder which prison that's based on, it's very different from the 23 hour lock down I recall hearing about. If anyone thinks prison is a holiday camp they should consider why then there's so many suicides and so much violence going on in there.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Wonder which prison that's based on, it's very different from the 23 hour lock down I recall hearing about. If anyone thinks prison is a holiday camp they should consider why then there's so many suicides and so much violence going on in there.

I should imagine either cat C or D.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

They're classed as 'experts' and members of 'the elite'. For some reason the idea of other people being an authority on a subject is seen as undemocratic and arrogant. Look at vaccines, global warming, warnings over sugar etc.

That's because even though we are told that vaccines are completely safe, there are vaccine damage funds. Even though we are told that global warming is a thing, there are still scientists who point out that polar bears are thriving and the polar ice is growing. We were told that sugar is ok but now we find out that it's worse than fat. That's why we we don't trust experts and the elite at face value

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

You've omitted to quote the reason I gave for my belief ie that the perpetrator is more likely to kill the child to permanently silence them through murder if they fear being executed if caught.

A child at least has a chance to recover from their ordeal and get on with their life with the right support if they are kept alive.

For those looking for revenge, I think that being imprisoned for a long time is much more of a punishment than being quickly and painlessly executed (which is how our society would do it in the unlikely event that the death penalty was reintroduced). They will be labeled as a 'Nonce' and I imagine will be bullied by other prisoners (there is a hierarchy even in prison) or have to stay in solitary confinement for their own safety.

For those like me who believe in the afterlife, their spirit/soul will become free (though what happens to them for doing such an wicked thing on Earth is a subject for another thread).

For those who believe that death is the end, it will all go black, they will have no consciousness and will have effectively got away with no punishment.

Who said anything about a quick and painless execution?

It seems you are quite happy for them to be "executed" inside prison instead by the other inmates, hypocrite.

When you've had a daughter raped by her step-father then you can come back and argue with me, until then...your opinion amounts to heap of %^%^%$

..and yes justice (you'll call it revenge) was meted out and he is now scarred for life. Sentence? Community service, those magistrates understood.