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				But I must be uneducated, Mr K says so as I voted Brexit. 
			
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 Passive-aggressive, much?
 
As has been previously stated, this was a misinterpretation of a poll finding put forward by the tabloid press -  if you wish to label yourself this way, it is a victim complex writ large...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-11-2016, 02:24
			
			
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				But I must be uneducated, Mr K says so as I voted Brexit. 
			
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 Yeah the rest of this thread really glows with you caring what Mr K thinks about anything.  
 
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				Passive-aggressive, much? 
 
As has been previously stated, this was a misinterpretation of a poll finding put forward by the tabloid press -  if you wish to label yourself this way, it is a victim complex writ large... 
			
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 We are in a genuinely fascinating situation where people label themselves as 'winners' while simultaneously running on a victim complex. Can you think of a precedent for this?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-11-2016, 02:30
			
			
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			I don't label myself as anything. Enough of Mr K I think he's got the message. 
 
I don't have a victim complex either.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-11-2016, 02:44
			
			
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			Yes there is a section of society that views any sort of education as a negative but it's not a large section no matter how loud it might be and there is a section that believes the queen is a lizard.  We are too complex a society to be broken down so easily no matter how hard our media tries.  The worst thing about brexit has been the infighting amongst us that it's lead too and the division that is getting greater and mostly instigated by individuals with their own agenda and zero concern or interest in any of us.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-11-2016, 10:14
			
			
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				I don't label myself as anything. Enough of Mr K I think he's got the message. 
 
I don't have a victim complex either. 
			
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 All I did was point to the Telegraph article which showed that those areas with higher education levels voted to Remain. Positive or negative, its a fact.  It doesnt make a leave vote less valid, but maybe many have been ill-informed by a rubbish negative campaign - from both sides. The words 'stupid', 'uneducated' weren't used.
 
Brexiters do seem paranoid and very defensive. You have to live with it now, you are what responsible for what happens, so don' t blame others. You can't even blame politicians from all sides who mostly advised to Remain,  and warned of the consequences.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-11-2016, 10:49
			
			
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				I need time to pay. 
 
Will £350million a week do? 
			
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 Ah, a post-truth joke .. nice    
 
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				All I did was point to the Telegraph article which showed that those areas with higher education levels voted to Remain. Positive or negative, its a fact.  It doesnt make a leave vote less valid, but maybe many have been ill-informed by a rubbish negative campaign - from both sides. The words 'stupid', 'uneducated' weren't used. 
 
Brexiters do seem paranoid and very defensive. You have to live with it now, you are what responsible for what happens, so don' t blame others. You can't even blame politicians from all sides who mostly advised to Remain,  and warned of the consequences. 
			
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 Brexit is now quasi-religious: I don't want to hear facts because I have Faith ..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-11-2016, 11:03
			
			
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				All I did was point to the Telegraph article which showed that those areas with higher education levels voted to Remain. Positive or negative, its a fact.  It doesnt make a leave vote less valid, but maybe many have been ill-informed by a rubbish negative campaign - from both sides. The words 'stupid', 'uneducated' weren't used. 
 
Brexiters do seem paranoid and very defensive. You have to live with it now, you are what responsible for what happens, so don' t blame others. You can't even blame politicians from all sides who mostly advised to Remain,  and warned of the consequences. 
			
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 Spot on, the way they have acted you would of thought they simply forgotten they got the result they wanted
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-11-2016, 11:28
			
			
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				Ah, a post-truth joke .. nice    
 
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Brexit is now quasi-religious: I don't want to hear facts because I have Faith ..  
			
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 sorry for the wait been praying in front of the brexit bus 
 
What a friend we have in brexit 
All our sins and griefs to bear 
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				Spot on, the way they have acted you would of thought they simply forgotten they got the result they wanted 
			
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 I'm sure any concern isn't about the outcome of the referendum, it's more to with the constant whining from those who're now undermining and challenging the result by such means as demanding second referendums etc. etc. etc.  We now even have the likes of Blair surfacing from beneath his very well appointed stone to join the anti exit clamour from the likes of Farron, the SNP, John Major.  That's what I believe those Brexiteers who are 'moaning' are doing so in respect of.  Unless it's escaped your attention, no 'result' has been obtained yet and until the matter's done and dusted there's going to be the distinct feeling that somehow the will of the majority who voted in the referendum to get out of the EU and the free movement of people is going to be subverted.  It's no wonder really though since there's history when it comes to the EU and the results of referenda being overturned of is that just another unfounded Brexiteer moan?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				sorry for the wait been praying in front of the brexit bus  
 
What a friend we have in brexit 
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 In front of the bus? Pity it didn't run you over .. no .. wait .. you don't know what direction it is going in do you?   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				In front of the bus? Pity it didn't run you over .. no .. wait .. you don't know what direction it is going in do you?    
			
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 we may have been in front of the side or in front the rear of the bus or outside the inside or even inside the outside it doesn't really matter we are all going in the same direction on the same bus   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Spot on, the way they have acted you would of thought they simply forgotten they got the result they wanted 
			
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 Don't forget, they have been 'constantly whining" for years, some of them posting 100's or even 1000's of messages on this forum on how bad the EU is and how we should leave, etc.
 
Now when the (flawed) vote was taken to Leave, and the sides are reversed, if you argue against leaving the EU, you are "undermining and challenging the result", you are a traitor and on and on.
 
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			[QUOTE=ianch99;35872082]Don't forget, they have been 'constantly whining" for years, some of them posting 100's or even 1000's of messages on this forum on how bad the EU is and how we should leave, etc. 
 
Now when the (flawed) vote was taken to Leave, and the sides are reversed, if you argue against leaving the EU, you are "undermining and challenging the result", you are a traitor .... 
 
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				I'm sure any concern isn't about the outcome of the referendum, it's more to with the constant whining from those who're now undermining and challenging the result by such means as demanding second referendums etc. etc. etc.  We now even have the likes of Blair surfacing from beneath his very well appointed stone to join the anti exit clamour from the likes of Farron, the SNP, John Major.  That's what I believe those Brexiteers who are 'moaning' are doing so in respect of.  Unless it's escaped your attention, no 'result' has been obtained yet and until the matter's done and dusted there's going to be the distinct feeling that somehow the will of the majority who voted in the referendum to get out of the EU and the free movement of people is going to be subverted.  It's no wonder really though since there's history when it comes to the EU and the results of referenda being overturned of is that just another unfounded Brexiteer moan? 
			
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 Just shows you didn't know what you voted for
 
yes we will leave the EU that's what the referendum ask. 
 
I didn't see anything in the question regarding freedom of movement, take up that with negotiaton and vote leave if you feel that was what you were promised
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Just shows you didn't know what you voted for 
 
yes we will leave the EU that's what the referendum ask.  
 
I didn't see anything in the question regarding freedom of movement, take up that with negotiaton and vote leave if you feel that was what you were promised 
			
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 ... and this is the claptrap people are right to moan about.  Migration and the free movement of people was overwhelmingly the primary concern of those who voted to leave, the EU debate and the general election before it.  It was that concern and the resulting surge in votes for UKIP which got us the referendum in the first place.   Up until that point HMG had no real interest in asking us anything.  To claim that's not the case or wasn't understood by those who voted out is patent nonsense.  Referenda are by definition binary choices 'yes/no', 'in/out' - the fine detail of what's entailed in those decisions is never a matter for the referendum but for what follows.  We voted to  leave - not to stay in some of it and slightly less in some of the what's left.  What part of that can't you accept?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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