Post-Brexit Thread

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

take it up with your sovereign government regarding the easy hand-outs, that's down to them not Europe, benefits are better abroad but you do have to work for them

perhaps that's why 1.2 million like myself have worked in Europe and done those "interesting" things you so easily dismissed but why open your eyes at this time eh?

Please don't talk at me as if I have never traveled before. Believe me I have and a lot further than Europe, I can tell thee ! But no thanks, I like to travel much further afield, far more interesting places, natural wonders and what not beyond the European Continent.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

according to the several versions of vote leave scriptures, contradictory views of leave MPs and the ingredients of this can of snake oil, apparently I can!!

Why would traveling or working in Europe post brexit be any more difficult than traveling or working anywhere else in the world.Honestly the way some people go off one would think that Europe is the whole of the world and the UK is exiting the world

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Mick

<snippety snip> One is enough and it is final - we are leaving the corrupted pile of crap, why people want to stay in corruption is bloody beyond me.</snippety snip>

You show me where it's legally binding and final, Oh yes, it isn't.......

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Originally Posted by denphone

And if one goes on holiday in Europe after Brexit there is likely to be a small fee added on as well as l hear one will have to get a temporary visa which will cost about a tenner.

TBF no different from the US ESTA scheme & the Turkish EVisa.

Even as a devout remainer, I don't see this as a biggy

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

You show me where it's legally binding and final, Oh yes, it isn't......

So what ,we do not run this country by referendum .The last referendum was specifically for the government to ascertain the publics feelings on leaving Europe ,they now know what those feelings are and will act accordingly .The result does not need to be legally binding .What you are asking is for referendums to be held until the right answer is reached,what happens if another one is held and a vote to remain is reached ,do we leave or stick by the first result or have another referendum ? .The result is final ,there will be no more referendums on Europe and nor should there be

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by Mick

Please don't talk at me as if I have never traveled before. Believe me I have and a lot further than Europe, I can tell thee ! But no thanks, I like to travel much further afield, far more interesting places, natural wonders and what not beyond the European Continent.

good for you, im all for more freedom of travel, work and living, you get my vote

Originally Posted by martyh

So what ,we do not run this country by referendum .The last referendum was specifically for the government to ascertain the publics feelings on leaving Europe ,they now know what those feelings are and will act accordingly .The result does not need to be legally binding .What you are asking is for referendums to be held until the right answer is reached,what happens if another one is held and a vote to remain is reached ,do we leave or stick by the first result or have another referendum ? .The result is final ,there will be no more referendums on Europe and nor should there be

No its not

[denphone]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

TBF no different from the US ESTA scheme & the Turkish EVisa.

Even as a devout remainer, I don't see this as a biggy

That is how l see it Mr M.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

No its not

why isn't it

Originally Posted by Mick

Please don't talk at me as if I have never traveled before. Believe me I have and a lot further than Europe, I can tell thee ! But no thanks, I like to travel much further afield, far more interesting places, natural wonders and what not beyond the European Continent.

I have traveled further than Europe too but Europe has some amazing places as well. Cities and natural wonders. The Norwegian Fjords for example. I think we underestimate how much we have on our doorstep here. So much only a few hours away. This is true irrespective of the referendum though, just as a general comment.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

You show me where it's legally binding and final, Oh yes, it isn't.......

Oh, here it comes, the boring legally binding chestnut, tired of hearing of it actually.

Yes, it was advisory, but the government is insisting we're leaving, as we know they want to set the motion to leave by end of March next year, but some pathetic remoaners who cannot accept democracy, want to argue all they can about the decision to try and knock it off course and drag it through litigation.

why would the result of a second referendum be any more valid than the first

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by martyh

why isn't it

because

a) facts in post referendum brexit world are apparently irrelevant
b) Tony Blair said so

Originally Posted by martyh

why would the result of a second referendum be any more valid than the first

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

because

a) facts in post referendum brexit world are apparently irrelevant
b) Tony Blair said so

If your going to defend a position try and have some reasonable answers

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

because

b) Tony Blair said so

On this forum, it's Bliar !

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

why would the result of a second referendum be any more valid than the first

Even if there is a second and the outcome is the same we know that the usual suspects will still claim it's not valid. There'll be more excuses, more whining, more claims of foul play until they get their way at which point you can bet there'll be no way back and suddenly referenda will be a very bad idea. That's how interested these people are in democracy. They only appreciate it when it yields what they want.