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1andrew1 · 21-11-2016, 14:37

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Originally Posted by 1701-e

SCART sockets aren't round so that picture is inaccurate.

It doesn't say that it's a "scart socket" it says "scart". This is how Now TV's white box works - a small socket which can receive have an adapter cable plugged into it and then the other end of the cable goes into a scart socket in the TV.
In the case of the V6 though, it appears this functionality has been disabled anyway!

1701-e · 21-11-2016, 14:39

Fair enough.
You'd wonder why a disabled connection is added to a new device.

1andrew1 · 21-11-2016, 14:41

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Originally Posted by 1701-e

Fair enough.
You'd wonder why a disabled connection is added to a new device.

Cost. I assume it's because in some markets it will be enabled and it's cheaper to manufacture one common design across several markets than have multiple versions.
Probably a bit frustrating if you want to use it with a SCART TV though.

Ultimate.Conj · 21-11-2016, 15:29

Using a 4K enabled V6 box through a SCART is madness anyway lol

22-11-2016, 02:10

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Using a 4K enabled V6 box through a SCART is madness anyway lol

Unless of course that's all your telly is capable of...

...never mind what the eye can actually see

BenMcr · 22-11-2016, 09:24

As far as I know all TVs in last 10 years or so have come with HDMI.

It's not much different to when the existing TiVo dropped the aerial connection and only had SCART and HDMI.

passingbat · 22-11-2016, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Using a 4K enabled V6 box through a SCART is madness anyway lol

Don't forget that many people will want a V6 for other reasons than 4k; it's faster, has 6 tuners and tablet streaming etc. 4k TVs are still a minority across TV ownership.

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Originally Posted by OhReally

Unless of course that's all your telly is capable of...

...never mind what the eye can actually see

Scart won't pass HD. It is still useful for old equipment but is being killed off by the industry.

I agree on the 4k bit; have posted similar articles myself. But HDR is worth it and only available on 4k TVs.

Stuart · 22-11-2016, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Using a 4K enabled V6 box through a SCART is madness anyway lol

Why? There are probably other advantages to the box, such as speed of access, storage capacity etc.

4K makes little or no difference over 1080p unless you are watching on a large screen (possible over 100 inches) as most people cannot actually see the difference. Oh, they may say they see the difference, but I suspect that is as much to do with justifying the cost of the equipment to themselves as it is to do with any visible difference.

TV manufacturers developed 4k purely because it's easier to sell a high pixel count than it is to sell, say, more realistic colours. Purely because people see 4k vs 2k, and think higher is better. It's not so easy to put figures on colour reproduction. The only way I can think of is to use the colour temperature. This would cause most of the public to say "Whoa, colour doesn't have a temperature as it's to do with light, not heat", and isn't a good indicator of the difference between screens anyway.

Ultimate.Conj · 22-11-2016, 10:36

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Don't forget that many people will want a V6 for other reasons than 4k; it's faster, has 6 tuners and tablet streaming etc. 4k TVs are still a minority across TV ownership.

Scart won't pass HD. It is still useful for old equipment but is being killed off by the industry.

I agree on the 4k bit; have posted similar articles myself. But HDR is worth it and only available on 4k TVs.

But why pay for a premium box and/or a premium TV package to only be able to watch SD channels? Just because the new box is faster and you can record a million hours of blurry SD programmes.

To get the best value out of the V6 you need a 4K tv connected by HDMI cable, not some chonky tv connected by SCART. I understand not everyone will have a 4K tv yet, but as a minimum you need a HD tv which are out there in abundance.

The point I'm trying to make is about getting the most out of the v6, not about what people can/cannot afford.

You wouldn't buy a Blu-ray player just to play normal DVDs.. The same applies to the V6.

Kabaal · 22-11-2016, 10:38

Even with an HDMI the only 4k content you'll be watching for the time being is via netflix and amazon anyway, neither of which require a V6. I do get your point about scart though, it's like insisting on still using VHS.

Ultimate.Conj · 22-11-2016, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Stuart

Why? There are probably other advantages to the box, such as speed of access, storage capacity etc.

4K makes little or no difference over 1080p .

SCART and HD do not go together my friend.

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Originally Posted by Kabaal

Even with an HDMI the only 4k content you'll be watching for the time being is via netflix and amazon anyway, neither of which require a V6. I do get your point about scart though, it's like insisting on still using VHS.

Yep, that's my point, Kabaal. I probably didn't word it very well.

I didn't mean to come across so brutal, sorry if I offended anyone. I just want people to get the most out of their box rather than using old tech but paying a premium

passingbat · 22-11-2016, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

But why pay for a premium box and/or a premium TV package to only be able to watch SD channels? Just .

I wasn't talking about SD channels (that was separate reply). The vast majority of people have HD TVs and an upgrade to the V6, for the reasons I mentioned, make perfect sense to those who require those features. You don't need a 4k TV to enjoy the benefits of the V6. For those with 4k TVs, being a 4k box is an added bonus, that is not relevant to the vast majority of viewers. VM were right to make it a 4k box, because eventually all new TVs will be 4k.

But again, the main advantage of a 4k set is HDR, and not all 4k TVs support HDR. Does the V6 support HDR?

Ultimate.Conj · 22-11-2016, 13:52

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Originally Posted by passingbat

I wasn't talking about SD channels (that was separate reply). The vast majority of people have HD TVs and an upgrade to the V6, for the reasons I mentioned, make perfect sense to those who require those features. You don't need a 4k TV to enjoy the benefits of the V6. For those with 4k TVs, being a 4k box is an added bonus, that is not relevant to the vast majority of viewers. VM were right to make it a 4k box, because eventually all new TVs will be 4k.

But again, the main advantage of a 4k set is HDR, and not all 4k TVs support HDR. Does the V6 support HDR?

Sorry mate, you've gone off on a tangent...my original post was regarding using a SCART cable for the V6. By using the SCART port, which is disabled anyway, you'd only be able to watch SD content. That's what I was getting at.

I agree with everything you say above though. If the V6 does support HDR I believe that is one up on the Sky Q which doesn't...I could be wrong though.

passingbat · 22-11-2016, 14:09

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Sorry mate, you've gone off on a tangent...my original post was regarding using a SCART cable for the V6. By using the SCART port, which is disabled anyway, you'd only be able to watch SD content. That's what I was getting at.

I agree with everything you say above though. If the V6 does support HDR I believe that is one up on the Sky Q which doesn't...I could be wrong though.

The fact that I combined two posts together possibly didn't help things.

JohnWB · 22-11-2016, 14:21

Does anyone know if you have to pay extra for the V6 box and / or renew your contract.

Also, will we all eventualy get new ones