Tivo V6 : Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)

[BenMcr]

Currently the non-return cost for the current TiVo box is £78, not £150.

The Hub 3.0 non-return cost is £34.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I agree. My box is on its last legs now. It has frozen in the middle of a programme I recorded on two recent occasions. Each time, the box started a re-boot, failed within seconds, started again, failed and so on in a loop it could not seem to escape. Unplugging it for a couple of minutes sorted it out, but sooner or later it will pack up. For this reason, I am banking on the new boxes being available to all of us on 1 December.

I am inquiring on Monday whether I can book a new box for December, but I think I know what the answer will be. That is, that I will have to wait until the launch before placing a booking. I hope I'm wrong.

Well, I suppose I should have guessed it. The VM guy said that all he knew was that customers could complete the online form to indicate an interest in being amongst the first to receive the new box.

He knew nothing about the 30 November event or any ability to pre-order the boxes, so clearly, Virgin are keeping their cards close to their collective chest.

Well, unless I hear to the contrary, I shall be on the blower to Virgin first thing on 1 December, with fingers tightly crossed.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Is it the fee that VM charges customers for non-return? That doesn't mean that is how much Tivo is worth or costs VM, it's a figure that VM uses to encourage return of the equipment. The same psychology as a potential parking fine.
Regarding how much a Tivo box is valued at, I believe that VM follows accounting practice and depreciates the value over five years to zero so some of the Tivo boxes will be on VM's balance sheet for £0 by now.
Of course, if you don't return a box then VM may have to purchase a replacement Tivo but I doubt it pays anything like £150 per box.

Yes, it's the non return fee.

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Currently the non-return cost for the current TiVo box is £78, not £150.

The Hub 3.0 non-return cost is £34.

In the packaging that I was sent to return the TiVo by taking it to a collection point, it said that if the TiVo never reached VM, a £150 charge would be applied.

This was another reason why I wanted VM to pick up the box, as the way this is worded suggests that if someone returned a box to a collection point and it went astray, the former customer would be blamed and charged £150.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, I suppose I should have guessed it. The VM guy said that all he knew was that customers could complete the online form to indicate an interest in being amongst the first to receive the new box.

He knew nothing about the 30 November event or any ability to pre-order the boxes, so clearly, Virgin are keeping their cards close to their collective chest.

Well, unless I hear to the contrary, I shall be on the blower to Virgin first thing on 1 December, with fingers tightly crossed.

This was exactly my reason for escalating my complaint upwards after deciding that it was make or break time between myself & VM.

There are approximately 2 million TiVos out there, but, apparently, only 10,000 will be given out this year...

[Inactive Digital]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This was another reason why I wanted VM to pick up the box, as the way this is worded suggests that if someone returned a box to a collection point and it went astray, the former customer would be blamed and charged £150.

When I dropped off my Tivo at the Collect Plus, I was given a receipt with a tracking code and could see it was delivered to Virgin the next day.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital

When I dropped off my Tivo at the Collect Plus, I was given a receipt with a tracking code and could see it was delivered to Virgin the next day.

If it had of said this I would have felt a lot happier about having it dropped off.

I wonder if the system varies from collection point to collection point?

There are going to be an awful lot of TiVo's in transit in the future...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This was exactly my reason for escalating my complaint upwards after deciding that it was make or break time between myself & VM.

There are approximately 2 million TiVos out there, but, apparently, only 10,000 will be given out this year...

It's no reason to leave VM, as far as I'm concerned. I can hold on for as long as my Tivo does. It has many of my favourite recordings on there and I want to see as many of them as possible before parting company with my old Tivo, which has served me well over the last four or five years.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It's no reason to leave VM, as far as I'm concerned. I can hold on for as long as my Tivo does. It has many of my favourite recordings on there and I want to see as many of them as possible before parting company with my old Tivo, which has served me well over the last four or five years.

Well, if you're happy with the status quo, i'm sure VM will be

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Could they be self-install for some people.? Maybe those with a current Tivo and V+ can get the V6 via courier and then return the V+ to VM.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Apart from new customers, I believe that they will all be self install.

Update:

It appears that VM may have changed their mind about self install as i've now been told that my V6 will be brought on Thursday by an engineer who will take my old box away with him after installing the new box.

Again, I don't know if this has been done to appease me or will be done for everyone converting to the new box.

They have also agreed to credit my account with a further £60, in effect this covers the TiVo fee from April when my box started going slow.

[dodgem22]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Update:

It appears that VM may have changed their mind about self install as i've now been told that my V6 will be brought on Thursday by an engineer who will take my old box away with him after installing the new box.

Again, I don't know if this has been done to appease me or will be done for everyone converting to the new box.

They have also agreed to credit my account with a further £60, in effect this covers the TiVo fee from April when my box started going slow.

Looking forward to your thoughts on the V6 when you get it. Hope I can get one soon myself.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by dodgem22

Looking forward to your thoughts on the V6 when you get it. Hope I can get one soon myself.

I hope that you will be able to get one soon too. My concerns is that if it is the case that self install is not going to be available, that it will delay the rollout. If I think on, i'll ask the installer when he's here.

I can't knock VM for wanting to make sure that everything will work properly though, I suspect that they will want to make sure that VOD works as there is no longer a built in modem.

If your router isn't in close proximity to the TiVo (which mine isn't), then I believe that they fit Powerline adapters free of charge.

Perhaps the built in modem was needed when TiVo was first introduced as at that time we didn't have the high BB speeds that we have now??

I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have Dodgem

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If it had of said this I would have felt a lot happier about having it dropped off.

I wonder if the system varies from collection point to collection point?

There are going to be an awful lot of TiVo's in transit in the future...

That is a standard feature of collect+

À lot of online retailers now do returns that way as well as deliveries.

[RobboEdin]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If your router isn't in close proximity to the TiVo (which mine isn't), then I believe that they fit Powerline adapters free of charge.

The V6 can connect via wifi as well on either the 2.4GHz or 5GHz band.

If no ethernet cable or powerline adapter is connected when the V6 is installed, it will present a list of wifi SSIDs to choose from for the installation.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Stephen

That is a standard feature of collect+

À lot of online retailers now do returns that way as well as deliveries.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by RobboEdin

The V6 can connect via wifi as well on either the 2.4GHz or 5GHz band.

If no ethernet cable or powerline adapter is connected when the V6 is installed, it will present a list of wifi SSIDs to choose from for the installation.

Excellent! I think I must have been reading about hooking up two TiVo boxes together in error or something.

So I it looks like the days of Ethernet cables & Powerline adapters are a thing of the past for MRS too for those with more than one V6.

Makes you wonder why they're not doing self install??

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Cheers.



Excellent! I think I must have been reading about hooking up two TiVo boxes together in error or something.

So I it looks like the days of Ethernet cables & Powerline adapters are a thing of the past for MRS too for those with more than one V6.

Makes you wonder why they're not doing self install??

Because in large homes wifi can be a complete nightmare , go and read the Sky Q forums.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Because in large homes wifi can be a complete nightmare , go and read the Sky Q forums.

Okidoki.

Some good news for those with a slow box.

VM are now rolling out a software update to try and improve the speed.

This should take no more than 30 seconds and will carry on being rolled out during the rest of November.

If the box is switched off at the time of the update, it will download it as soon as it is switched back on.