General : Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2

[Ultimate.Conj]

Originally Posted by bolgerp

One thing that IS quite handy with having the apps on one box is that (for those of us with surround sound/AV Receiver set up) you don't have to fiddle around with alternating inputs etc. to the AV equipment. .

I have a surround sound...just whack an optical cable from the surround sound to the TV...hey presto...everything connected to the TV including Consoles, DVD players will work through it

But same here...I use Netflix and such apps through the TV/Console, Tivo just takes sooooo long. Plus through the TV I can access the 4K content. Whether I'd use the V6 to access 4K might depend on how quick that little fella is.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I would agree with all that , I'd say as a non Virgin Media subscriber I'm pretty neutral on the news , its not something that would instantly turn my head and want to make me subscribe that said I can see the merits of accessing your subscriptions through the one box for me certainly not essential but convenient.

I'd imagine the next platform to add Amazon will be Youview as BT's head of TV has already stated they'd like to. Sky is still taking a more cautious view on adding these services which is understandable being that they provide lots of their own content. It's something what they seem to be keeping an eye on if surveys are anything to go by.

Yes, I think Sky has a bit of a dilemma here - does it give its customers what they want and risk people reducing their spend with it or does it sit by and watch people buy Firesticks and Apple TVs and subscribe to Netflix and Amazon anyway? The middle road of offering access to those subscribers who take Sky Cinema looks a bit mean. If such users downgraded, then Sky would look a bit mean of it stopped them accessing Amazon and Netflix. Will be interested to see how it plays out.
In terms of significance, it's more significant than VM getting Fox News but less significant than the new V6 box being launched.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I wonder what will be on channel 205? YourTV?

Just remembered (had a lot of Grey Goose ) that last Sunday night I was told that Blaze were interested in joining VM.

Could this be the new channel??

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yes, I think Sky has a bit of a dilemma here - does it give its customers what they want and risk people reducing their spend with it or does it sit by and watch people buy Firesticks and Apple TVs and subscribe to Netflix and Amazon anyway? The middle road of offering access to those subscribers who take Sky Cinema looks a bit mean. If such users downgraded, then Sky would look a bit mean of it stopped them accessing Amazon and Netflix. Will be interested to see how it plays out.
In terms of significance, it's more significant than VM getting Fox News but less significant than the new V6 box being launched.

They may test the water at some point on the Now TV box , allow users to add Netflix and Amazon services and see how it impacts on subscribers numbers and spend.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Amazon Apps are already on loads of devices that are connected to people's TVs.

Unless you don't have a Smart TV or a console connected to your TV, I cannot see the big deal in this, sorry guys.
For me it's no issue to connect to Netflix and Amazon through the Smart TV app instead of using the Tivo box. It's probably a lot quicker to be honest.

There are still an awful lot of people who don't have a Smart TV or a streaming box, UC. While I accept that this does nothing for you and me, there will be many viewers who think this is really good. Having it all on one box is particularly useful, provided it is fast. The V6 promises this.

A good move by Virgin, I'd say.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

They may test the water at some point on the Now TV box , allow users to add Netflix and Amazon services and see how it impacts on subscribers numbers and spend.

I think they're more likely to do it with Sky than Now TV. Now TV users with monthly passes seeking a cost-effective TV solution are less "sticky" than Sky TV customers.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

There are still an awful lot of people who don't have a Smart TV or a streaming box, UC. While I accept that this does nothing for you and me, there will be many viewers who think this is really good. Having it all on one box is particularly useful, provided it is fast. The V6 promises this.

A good move by Virgin, I'd say.

It also allows them to advertise Amazon and Netflix 4K on the new box.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

True but bt, talktalk apps tend to work pretty quickly unlike the dinosaur that is vms current tivo, although that is going to improve greatly when vms tivo2 comes out very very soon.
I call it the tivo2 for simplicity lol.

Yes, next year, VM will be streaming well ahead of Sky, BT and Talk Talk. This is the place to be, as it happens!

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Originally Posted by bolgerp

One thing that IS quite handy with having the apps on one box is that (for those of us with surround sound/AV Receiver set up) you don't have to fiddle around with alternating inputs etc. to the AV equipment.

That being said, I have an Apple TV and Amazon Fire connected to my AV receiver and tend to use these for Netflix/Amazon/iPlayer etc. on demand stuff. They are just just way faster than the TiVo box.

Yes, but from what we hear, that objection will be toast when the V6 comes out.

Virgin will be the only comprehensive provider of TV channels and streaming services, all in one box. That'a pretty good USP for most, I would suspect.

Techies aside, most people can't be doing with loads of boxes, streaming sticks, etc. This is an ideal solution for minimalists!

[Ultimate.Conj]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

There are still an awful lot of people who don't have a Smart TV or a streaming box, UC. While I accept that this does nothing for you and me, there will be many viewers who think this is really good. Having it all on one box is particularly useful, provided it is fast. The V6 promises this.

A good move by Virgin, I'd say.

If you have a Netflix or Amazon subscription, let's be honest, these people are also going to have Smart TVs, Games Consoles and the like...

But, forget about that and thinking ahead, having these apps on the Tivo/V6 could entice those without subscriptions to sign up because of the convenience. Will be a good move by both parties.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

It also allows them to advertise Amazon and Netflix 4K on the new box.

Good point.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, next year, VM will be streaming well ahead of Sky, BT and Talk Talk. This is the place to be, as it happens!

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Yes, but from what we hear, that objection will be toast when the V6 comes out.

Virgin will be the only comprehensive provider of TV channels and streaming services, all in one box. That'a pretty good USP for most, I would suspect.

Techies aside, most people can't be doing with loads of boxes, streaming sticks, etc. This is an ideal solution for minimalists!

BT have already said they are aiming to add Amazon and bt/tt/plusnet all have nowtv (movies) aswell as netflix, uktv, and usual on demand players.
VM certainly are coming along leaps and bounds in the streaming market no doubt about that but their current tivo is a waste of space, their new one however is a whole different ball game but i feel many are going to be disappointed with it.
My android tv box leaves all of them in it's dust for streaming but we can't really compare that to vm.bt etc.
Also no idea if true but BT are (allegedly) testing a new tv box.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yes, I think Sky has a bit of a dilemma here - does it give its customers what they want and risk people reducing their spend with it or does it sit by and watch people buy Firesticks and Apple TVs and subscribe to Netflix and Amazon anyway? The middle road of offering access to those subscribers who take Sky Cinema looks a bit mean. If such users downgraded, then Sky would look a bit mean of it stopped them accessing Amazon and Netflix. Will be interested to see how it plays out.
In terms of significance, it's more significant than VM getting Fox News but less significant than the new V6 box being launched.

The thing is, people will subscribe to the services they want, regardless as to whether they are on the one box. I get Netflix, Amazon and Now TV, but I still have the full TV package with Virgin (except Sky Sports and other premium channels that I don't ever watch anyway).

By denying their subscribers the right to choose, they are attracting new and existing audiences to Virgin's service. So be it. They'll learn.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The thing is, people will subscribe to the services they want, regardless as to whether they are on the one box. I get Netflix, Amazon and Now TV, but I still have the full TV package with Virgin (except Sky Sports and other premium channels that I don't ever watch anyway).

By denying their subscribers the right to choose, they are attracting new and existing audiences to Virgin's service. So be it. They'll learn.

Then people will see how awful VM are for throttling and oversubscribing and then leave VM

[denphone]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

Then people will see how awful VM are for throttling and oversubscribing and then leave VM

What and go to the dreadful BT or Talk Talk? as its better the devil you know then the devil you don't know sometimes.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by denphone

What and go to the dreadful BT or Talk Talk? as its better the devil you know then the devil you don't know sometimes.

Never been throttled by BT always averaging around about 74mbs at all times also get 19mbs upload too, vms upload was pathetic.
Don't know about talktalk but SSE on the otherhand were far worse than vm for throttling even ofcom got involved in my case so SSE had to release me from the contract, the lesson there was cheaper isn't always better.
But i would never trust VM again.