Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?

How often are people at these car washes being paid the minimum wage though? We shouldn't encourage a race to the bottom.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Damien

How often are people at these car washes being paid the minimum wage though? We shouldn't encourage a race to the bottom.

I completely agree.

The point i was trying to make is that low paid migration workers will continue to be needed until people in the UK are prepared to take the work on. Something i suspect that may never occur.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I completely agree.

The point i was trying to make is that low paid migration workers will continue to be needed until people in the UK are prepared to take the work on. Something i suspect that may never occur.

So can you find me a migrant to clean my boots and wipe my rear end please? The job can later be taken on by some Council estate kid, the lazy sod.

I'm suprised you approve of low paid workers doing such menial tasks. You are a Lord of the Manor aren't you? I thought you were anti-toff?

Originally Posted by Kursk

I'm suprised you approve of low paid workers doing such menial tasks. You are a Lord of the Manor aren't you? I thought you were anti-toff?

I mean the idea that people who do menial tasks will be paid less is pretty obvious....

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I completely agree.

The point i was trying to make is that low paid migration workers will continue to be needed until people in the UK are prepared to take the work on. Something i suspect that may never occur.

I actually agree with you there and have said so many times on this forum .We know that there is plenty of work because of the amount of migrants that come here to work .Even if a percentage work on the black market ( local car wash) i suspect most will work legit at places like Subway or Burger King even in construction and even if the pay is low it does give people a chance to better themselves ,watching Jeremy Kyle will not .The only thing stopping our home grown twonks from picking sprouts is themselves

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Damien

I mean the idea that people who do menial tasks will be paid less is pretty obvious....

But as you say, I don't think we should encourage a race to my bottom.

Originally Posted by Damien

We shouldn't encourage a race to the bottom.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by martyh

I actually agree with you there and have said so many times on this forum .We know that there is plenty of work because of the amount of migrants that come here to work .Even if a percentage work on the black market ( local car wash) i suspect most will work legit at places like Subway or Burger King even in construction and even if the pay is low it does give people a chance to better themselves ,watching Jeremy Kyle will not .The only thing stopping our home grown twonks from picking sprouts is themselves

Precisely

[RichardCoulter]

We could keep those who are doing jobs that employers find hard to fill.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

The ones near me are heavily staffed by immigrants who have come over to better themselves.

The service they provide is superb, they even make me a tea or a coffee while I'm waiting

I don't see this work ethic in natives who are at the lower end of the wage sector in the UK

Agree completely

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Originally Posted by Damien

I mean the idea that people who do menial tasks will be paid less is pretty obvious....

Yep. Thats's why I'm looking askance at Labours call to increase the minimum wage to £10/hour.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Agree completely

Bah, bloody foreigners (not them, you) .

[Hom3r]

Speaks as someone who has a Polish guy working in the same company I say this.

Those who are working should stay, those who are here only to claim benefits should be told to leave.

Those with non minor criminal records should also be removed.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Speaks as someone who has a Polish guy working in the same company I say this.

Those who are working should stay, those who are here only to claim benefits should be told to leave.

Those with non minor criminal records should also be removed.

+1

Originally Posted by Kursk

But as you say, I don't think we should encourage a race to my bottom.

I mean in paying people below minimum wage, paid less is relative to people who do less than menial work.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

How many people use the hand car washes that have sprung up all over the country?

My local once charges £5, It doesn't matter what the weather is they are there working. The ones near me are heavily staffed by immigrants who have come over to better themselves.

The service they provide is superb, they even make me a tea or a coffee while I'm waiting

I don't see this work ethic in natives who are at the lower end of the wage sector in the UK

I wonder how many of them are paying tax? This nonsense is what made me want to leave the EU 10 years ago, anyone would think we never coped or built anything before the polish got here, when all they did imo was undercut British workers and force them out of the marketplace.

Originally Posted by Taf

If you have independent income, a pension perhaps, and you are "not a burden on the state of the host nation", then you will almost always be allowed to stay. But that should include your spouse and other members of the family not born in that country.

If you think "the majority" of migrants are not receiving benefits of some sort, you would probably be shocked. And even more so when you realise many pay in a LOT less than they receive. Especially amongst the unskilled migrants from A8 countries. I know as I have seen the paperwork of quite a few.

Based on my considerable experience I'd say you're right, the days are gone when the polish would do all the hours god sent and live three to a room, I see it all the time now, can't do overtime as it'll affect my tax credits etc and tbh that's the reason why I voted remain, the reasons I had for leaving like them making the minimum wage the norm were no longer relevant.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I wonder how many of them are paying tax?

My guess would be none making anyone who uses their services complicit in defrauding the state.