Post-Brexit Thread

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by martyh

It is wrong now ,you may not think overcrowded schools,NHS at breaking point,people unable to get doctors appointments and social housing given to migrants is fine and dandy but all the above failings are a direct result of EU policy .Anything we do now can only be better

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When was the last time you ever heard a prospective PM trying to get elected using a "i will vote xxxx into the European Commission " ticket.The EC is responsible for legislation and day to day running of the EU ,that's the bit that effects all of us in very real ways,we get no vote on that and interestingly these leaders that are promoted by the elected leaders of sovereign nations are duty bound by their oath of office to represent the general interests of the EU NOT their country of origin .So not democratic,not elected by citizens and not working in member states interests

1) Evidence that directly correletes that statement?
2) The opinion of someone who wears rose tinted glasses and refuses to see the potential damage done to the country

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Whingeing. Contemptuous. Unpatriotic. Damn the Bremoaners and their plot to subvert the will of the British people


You lost. Stop the anti-democratic games and respect the emphatic verdict of the British people.

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Idiotic little englander

I may not be allowed to have my say post Brexit..but I can still think it..

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Whingeing. Contemptuous. Unpatriotic. Damn the Bremoaners and their plot to subvert the will of the British people


You lost. Stop the anti-democratic games and respect the emphatic verdict of the British people.

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Could you imagine the reverse if Remain had won, and HMG decided to go for 'Hard Remain' and joined the Euro, Schengen, etc.?

Do you actually believe Brexiteers would have kept quiet? Would they have been 'Fifth Columnists' and 'traitors' if they had spoken out against those?

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

1) Evidence that directly correletes that statement?
2) The opinion of someone who wears rose tinted glasses and refuses to see the potential damage done to the country[COLOR="Silver"]

Article 3(2) of the Treaty on European Union (TEU); Articles 4(2)(a), 20, 26 and 45-48 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU).
Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of citizens of the Union and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the Member States; Regulation (EU) No 492/2011 on freedom of movement for workers within the Union; Regulation (EC) No 883/2004 on the coordination of social security systems and its implementing Regulation (EC) No 987/2009


It's impossible to have so much migration and have no extra strain put on services .

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Are you a Daily Mail 5th Columnist

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This one, another fantasist, has been hired by David Davis to provide expertise on the process of leaving the EU:

Brexit adviser: leaving EU customs union will cost UK £25bn a year

no i just post drivel from it to see who bites to you for not biting /to all the usual bandwagoneers

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

1) Evidence that directly correletes that statement?
2) The opinion of someone who wears rose tinted glasses and refuses to see the potential damage done to the country

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i'm an Idiotic little englander

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

He can't mean you're an idiotic little englander papa, he must mean the DM bloke. Everyone knows smurfs come from...ummm...where are all you smurfs coming from?

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Kursk

He can't mean you're an idiotic little englander papa, he must mean the DM bloke. Everyone knows smurfs come from...ummm...where are all you smurfs coming from?

Belgium.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Belgium.

gulp

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Belgium.

Aha! Papa, you are an idiotic little Belgian .

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Pierre

just leave, clean break. hard Brexit then negotiate, if we covet the customs union then the EU think they have leverage over us.

If they want to slap tariffs on our exports, we can slap tariffs on theirs I'm sure they'd love their Audis, BMWs, VWs, Champagne, prosecco, cava, cheese to be more expensive against cars from the far east, sparkling chardonnay from the US and Australia.

We'd have to slap tariffs on products throughout the world or have tariffs on none unless we had free trade agreements.

We can't trade tariff free with everyone as it'd destroy much of what's left of our manufacturing base.

We can't have free trade agreements until our schedule of tariffs and quotas is sorted with the WTO.

We need agreement from the 163+ members of the WTO on our schedule before it's ratified.

I appreciate if you listen to the three Brexiteers and their fan club none of this is an issue, there's no legal ambiguity at all and it'll be smooth as silk. I'm just going by what the guy in charge of accession to the WTO said, under the possibly mistaken impression he knows more these matters than Boris Johnson or David Davis.

It would be awesome if it were that simple, and businesses far less stressed.

[Anypermitedroute]

Meanwhile in real world...
Tesco pulls dozens of Unilever brands in post-Brexit price row
http://news.sky.com/story/tesco-pull...e-row-10614934

They'll sort that. Unilever have already managed to get their prices accepted at other places. Most likely they'll cut a deal with Tesco.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

We'd have to slap tariffs on products throughout the world or have tariffs on none unless we had free trade agreements.

We can't trade tariff free with everyone as it'd destroy much of what's left of our manufacturing base.

We can't have free trade agreements until our schedule of tariffs and quotas is sorted with the WTO.

We need agreement from the 163+ members of the WTO on our schedule before it's ratified.

I appreciate if you listen to the three Brexiteers and their fan club none of this is an issue, there's no legal ambiguity at all and it'll be smooth as silk. I'm just going by what the guy in charge of accession to the WTO said, under the possibly mistaken impression he knows more these matters than Boris Johnson or David Davis.

It would be awesome if it were that simple, and businesses far less stressed.

I don't pretend to be an expert or even marginally knowledgable but how square this

https://www.ft.com/content/5741129a-...f-79eb4891c97d

With this

http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/int-trade.shtml

Originally Posted by Pierre

I don't pretend to be an expert or even marginally knowledgable but how square this

https://www.ft.com/content/5741129a-...f-79eb4891c97d

With this

http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/int-trade.shtml

I was told in no uncertain terms that they are the wrong type of expert,they don't count.

The right kind of experts are the one's that predict UKplc being swallowed up in black hole of financial ruin

The right kind of experts are those without an axe to grind, and are not pushing either side of the agenda...

(Not the ones you agree with you...)