Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?

RichardCoulter · 06-10-2016, 17:52

The Wright Stuff had an interesting discussion earlier as to whether some people should not be allowed to procreate.

I believe that, in the most extreme circumstances, some people should be prevented from having children.

The Wright Stuff focussed on the recent case where a paedophile convicted of having 137,000 indecent images of children was allowed to walk free because "he wants to start a family".

Other reasons may include past proven physical or emotional abuse, those giving birth to child after child without the means to look after them etc.

Arguments against this include the belief that the right to procreate is an essential human right.

What do others think?

papa smurf · 06-10-2016, 18:20

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The Wright Stuff had an interesting discussion earlier as to whether some people should not be allowed to procreate.

I believe that, in the most extreme circumstances, some people should be prevented from having children.

The Wright Stuff focussed on the recent case where a paedophile convicted of having 137,000 indecent images of children was allowed to walk free because "he wants to start a family".

Other reasons may include past proven physical or emotional abuse, those giving birth to child after child without the means to look after them etc.

Arguments against this include the belief that the right to procreate is an essential human right.

What do others think?

have you procreated yet

heero_yuy · 06-10-2016, 18:24

I think that if some couple has a inheritable severe disability then maybe yes. Though who decides this and then how to prevent those people from procreating is probably a step too far. Eugenics anybody?

Kabaal · 06-10-2016, 18:28

Do i think that certain people shouldn't have children? Yes. Do i think it should actually be enforced? No. That's a road that can only lead somewhere very very dark.

06-10-2016, 18:34

definitely not .Plenty of people should have children removed but never forcibly prevented from having children

ianch99 · 06-10-2016, 19:23

Isn't this proposal one of the basic tenets of a Fascist state?

jb66 · 06-10-2016, 19:45

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Originally Posted by martyh

definitely not .Plenty of people should have children removed but never forcibly prevented from having children

What if the people have HIV or Aids?

**Hugh** · 06-10-2016, 19:55

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Originally Posted by jb66

What if the people have HIV or Aids?

http://mobile.aidsmap.com/HIV-and-ha...y/page/1044918

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Women living with HIV can have healthy pregnancies and give birth to healthy babies without passing on HIV. Most of the advice for women with HIV is the same as it would be for anyone else thinking about starting a family or having another baby. Some extra steps are necessary to reduce the risk of HIV being passed on.

rogerdraig · 06-10-2016, 20:18

i voted yes but only for a very limited few the main one being where the person is mentally incapable of properly looking after themselves and or their mental age puts them in the range of not being able to consent. It would be far better to prevent in those circumstances than sort out later. which could either upset them more or leave a child at risk.

**Maggy** · 06-10-2016, 20:23

I think of it this way..Having children is NOT a human right.However I am not prepared to live in a society that has forced eugenics.

Mr K · 06-10-2016, 20:28

Exactly how would you prevent anyone from 'procreating' ?

There was an interesting documentary on Downs syndrome last night, quality of life is in the eye of the beholder. Almost all that prescan positive for the syndrome abort. Maybe some of them should have watched this programme, with some very happy Downs syndrome families. Not against abortion, but life is precious, and nobody should judge what's good for someone else.

rogerdraig · 06-10-2016, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I think of it this way..Having children is NOT a human right.However I am not prepared to live in a society that has forced eugenics.

i don't either as such and i don't think a physical disability is a reason to and though i think rapists and pedophiles should generally be locked up for good i would not be in favor of using it on them either. However i do think where the mental capability to even risk assess your self then it could be and though it may not be talked about this happens already in one form or another.

TheDaddy · 06-10-2016, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I think of it this way..Having children is NOT a human right.However I am not prepared to live in a society that has forced eugenics.

You already have done, you're not that much younger than my aunt who was nearly sterilised for the crime of promiscuity as a teen, iirc they claimed it was a mental disorder. Think I may bring that up again when some one has the rose tinted specs on banging on about how great things used to be.

**Hugh** · 07-10-2016, 11:46

Why use 'procreating' in the title/proposition when 'having children' is clearer?

heero_yuy · 07-10-2016, 11:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Why use 'procreating' in the title/proposition when 'having children' is clearer?

Or even "Dropping sprogs"