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		|  09-09-2016, 18:33 | #3451 |  
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			Right, am I being unreasonable here?  I am at the office an hour early every shift, I help all 4 managers with their equipment, guns etc even though I am not with 3 of them on a given day, I haul the equipment out for them and help load it, I work my socks off and volunteer for overtime, even offering to go in for free and sort all the tags out for them on a day off.  This week, after a 9 hour shift at Waitrose, I was one of 6 who volunteered to go and help out on another job.
 What thanks do me and the non management get who helped our get?  None.  I feel very undervalued today.  Monday, I'm looking for a new job.  Can't keep pretending I'm happy there, the managers keep asking if we are OK and I turned around once and went does it matter if we say no, they said no.  Charming.
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		|  09-09-2016, 20:29 | #3452 |  
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			Once again I waited longer to get transport home than my treatment lasted...... Grrr
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			Drivers that don't indicate at junctions.
 Drivers that don't indicate when changing lanes.
 
 And finally drivers that don't indicate when going around a roundabout and then not indicating to leave it......
 
 They should all be made to retake their tests in my opinion.
 
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					Originally Posted by SnoopZ  Drivers that don't indicate at junctions.
 Drivers that don't indicate when changing lanes.
 
 And finally drivers that don't indicate when going around a roundabout and then indicating to leave it......
 
 They should all be made to retake their tests in my opinion.
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			Not really a moan or a pet hate but certainly not a happy thought.  Osem Jnr #2 is heading off to college in about a week and will be boarding there Mon-Fri.  I know it may seem odd to many people but I am going to miss him and worry about him so very much.  Whilst I  hope it will be a positive life changing experience for him, I'll be praying they care for him properly and that his time there will help him develop towards his full potential.  I really can't express how it feels to be handing him over to the care of other people for so long except to say that it's a mixture of trepidation and hope.  Despite all the challenges and difficulties he's presented us with over the years, he's the most special young man, I'll always love him dearly and I'll never stop caring or worrying about his welfare.
		 
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		|  12-09-2016, 08:46 | #3456 |  
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			Not sure whether to class this as a moan/hate or happy thought.  But am so fed up with the politics at work and not getting recognition for the extra stuff I do behind the scenes that I am now looking for a new job.  Got to ask my manager later to write a reference for me, that'll make her day.  Not.
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		|  12-09-2016, 08:53 | #3457 |  
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		|  12-09-2016, 09:30 | #3458 |  
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			My moan this morning is the numbness , pain and bee like stings in my legs are still as bad as ever.  
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		|  12-09-2016, 11:34 | #3459 |  
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			Take Care Den,   Hope you feel better.  Also be careful Mark,  asking for a ref, might not make them happy and they might find a way to sack you, and you may not get the job,  Nash
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		|  12-09-2016, 11:47 | #3460 |  
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			I get that, but they'll know anyway as I have to give 2 references on an application form I'm filling out, and one must be my current employer if in employment.  So she'll know anyway when they call her for one.  Apparently, they get their references before deciding who goes on the shortlist for interview.
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			Good Luck Mark,  Whatever happens
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					Originally Posted by SnoopZ  Drivers that don't indicate at junctions.
 Drivers that don't indicate when changing lanes.
 
 And finally drivers that don't indicate when going around a roundabout and then not indicating to leave it......
 
 They should all be made to retake their tests in my opinion.
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		|  12-09-2016, 15:17 | #3463 |  
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					Originally Posted by SnoopZ  Never ask your current employer for a reference while you're still in your current job, the last thing you want them to know is you're thinking of leaving! |  Mark, don't do this - it adds no value except to make you feel better. 
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					Originally Posted by MarkC1984  I get that, but they'll know anyway as I have to give 2 references on an application form I'm filling out, and one must be my current employer if in employment.  So she'll know anyway when they call her for one.  Apparently, they get their references before deciding who goes on the shortlist for interview. |  Most places ask for references after interviews, as it is much more work to do it for 20 unsuccessful candidates than one successful one - they may ask for a reference if you are shortlisted for an interview, but it is very unlikely that all applicants' references are requested, and by telling her this may happen, you could damage your working relationship (and any chances of being given further opportunities, as why would somebody give a good thing to someone who has said they are leaving...).
 
Can I also suggest you think about an answer (should you get to interview stage) to the question "why are you leaving your current job, as you've only been there a short while?".
 
You need to think of positive reasons, because if you say it is because you're unhappy due to (list of reasons), they will wonder if you will feel the same way in the new job, and this may count against you.
 
My advice to you would be to stay in your current job until you have at least a year's solid experience, which looks better on your CV than a short spell after a long period of unemployment.
 
I know you are having issues, but it is likely the same type of issues will arise wherever you go, and you do seem to (at times) to be enjoying what you do and are gaining good experience.
		 
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		|  12-09-2016, 17:46 | #3464 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Mark, don't do this - it adds no value except to make you feel better.
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 Most places ask for references after interviews, as it is much more work to do it for 20 unsuccessful candidates than one successful one - they may ask for a reference if you are shortlisted for an interview, but it is very unlikely that all applicants' references are requested, and by telling her this may happen, you could damage your working relationship (and any chances of being given further opportunities, as why would somebody give a good thing to someone who has said they are leaving...).
 
 Can I also suggest you think about an answer (should you get to interview stage) to the question "why are you leaving your current job, as you've only been there a short while?".
 
 You need to think of positive reasons, because if you say it is because you're unhappy due to (list of reasons), they will wonder if you will feel the same way in the new job, and this may count against you.
 
 My advice to you would be to stay in your current job until you have at least a year's solid experience, which looks better on your CV than a short spell after a long period of unemployment.
 
 I know you are having issues, but it is likely the same type of issues will arise wherever you go, and you do seem to (at times) to be enjoying what you do and are gaining good experience.
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			Quite frankly I really cannot be bothered with going to dialysis any more I had to wait three and a half hours to go home. I mean ok if it was once or twice but it happens all the time.
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