People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.

If anyone is receiving abusive emails from another member please report it.Same with PMs.Use the T&Cs as a guideline as to what is abusive

[Taf]

24 years a Carer, and I only once had a sit-down with the DSS.

And they wanted me off Carers Allowance and into full time employment.

So I asked when the Respite Care would be made available, plus full-time paid carer to replace me.

Interview ended.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

24 years a Carer, and I only once had a sit-down with the DSS.

And they wanted me off Carers Allowance and into full time employment.

So I asked when the Respite Care would be made available, plus full-time paid carer to replace me.

Interview ended.

It has to be said that full time carers not only save the state a fortune but all too often sacrifice their own lives, education, careers etc. to do so and are then left high a dry when their loved one dies or can no longer be cared for at home. Even getting limited respite care can be a big issue and if ever there were a false economy that would be it.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Taf

24 years a Carer, and I only once had a sit-down with the DSS.

And they wanted me off Carers Allowance and into full time employment.

So I asked when the Respite Care would be made available, plus full-time paid carer to replace me.

Interview ended.

Excellent answer!!!

It's felt by many welfare rights organisations that the Government intend to use these interviews for their own ends.

If those on here are happy to participate, that's fine, but the advice to those who receive a letter remains the same: seek advice.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

If anyone is receiving abusive emails from another member please report it.Same with PMs.Use the T&Cs as a guideline as to what is abusive

Just to confirm that I have never sent a single email to him, abusive or otherwise. There has, however, been an issue off the boards, which some of your colleagues are aware of.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Excellent answer!!!

It's felt by many welfare rights organisations that the Government intend to use these interviews for their own ends.

If those on here are happy to participate, that's fine, but the advice to those who receive a letter remains the same: seek advice.
.

Then provide a link otherwise it's just made up drivel

Richard people on carers allowance have had these talks for years now my wife attends annually and the main point of the meeting has been if there was more that could be done for her. Your op was overly exaggerated bordering on scare mongering and until such time as the government announces changes that's what it will remain.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Osem

It has to be said that full time carers not only save the state a fortune but all too often sacrifice their own lives, education, careers etc. to do so and are then left high a dry when their loved one dies or can no longer be cared for at home. Even getting limited respite care can be a big issue and if ever there were a false economy that would be it.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

When the Cameron Government mooted the scrapping of Carers Allowance to save money, there was uproar (for the very reasons you point out).

It's felt that these meetings are designed to obtain evidence to help with this outstanding aim.

If people think that this is scaremongering etc etc, so be it.

One of my roles is to feed advice on social policy, so I have a lot of public, private and voluntary links. None of them think that this is a good idea.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Richard people on carers allowance have had these talks for years now my wife attends annually and the main point of the meeting has been if there was more that could be done for her. Your op was overly exaggerated bordering on scare mongering and until such time as the government announces changes that's what it will remain.

This is different to the interviews where Carers are invited to meetings at the local Jobcentre to try to get them into work. I have had reports that some of these 'advisors' have been very good and I'm pleased that your wife was treated well, but this is not always the case.

The contract (link to provider in the initial post) has only just been awarded, so people can expect something to surface on the net or be in the news in the coming months.

Forewarned is forearmed and not scaremongering at all

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Couldn't have put it better myself.

When the Cameron Government mooted the scrapping of Carers Allowance to save money, there was uproar (for the very reasons you point out).

It's felt that these meetings are designed to obtain evidence to help with this outstanding aim.

If people think that this is scaremongering etc etc, so be it.

One of my roles is to feed advice on social policy, so I have a lot of public, private and voluntary links. None of them think that this is a good idea.

Then give us some evidence

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The contract (link to provider in the initial post) has only just been awarded, so people can expect something to surface on the net or be in the news in the coming months.

Forewarned is forearmed and not scaremongering at all

You are scaremongering .You have provided no evidence that this is in anyway untoward or some 'secret plan' by the government.You stated in the first post that
" Their body language and facial expressions will be studied behind 2 way mirrors." giving no explanation and you continue to paint this as some bad thing so yes you are absolutely scaremongering,just the same as when you claimed Asda had a policy against gay people

[techguyone]

I can feel an ignore coming on.

[nomadking]

The "Their body language and facial expressions will be studied behind 2 way mirrors" is more a description of the facilities of the Manchester centre and not something that is going to be used in that situation. After all Liverpool Central Library was also used, and I doubt it has many 2 way mirrors. They are just available places to have a group meeting.

There is a whole section on the DWP website about user research.
Choose the location that will work best for each round of user research.

You don’t always need a full research lab, and many types of research are done best in other locations.
You can run research sessions in:

• research studios or labs
• meeting rooms
• a participant’s home or workplace
• public spaces (pop-up research)
• your office (using a laptop or phone for remote research)

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

Then give us some evidence

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You are scaremongering .You have provided no evidence that this is in anyway untoward or some 'secret plan' by the government.You stated in the first post that
" Their body language and facial expressions will be studied behind 2 way mirrors." giving no explanation and you continue to paint this as some bad thing so yes you are absolutely scaremongering,just the same as when you claimed Asda had a policy against gay people

Correct. Deliberately misleading IMHO. It's the sign of a very warped mind when someone would deliberately stir up fear amongst those they claim to be supporting. It's quite obvious that some people rather like stirring up trouble and then playing the victim when called out. Luckily for everyone here, it's perfectly clear to see who has confidence to stand by their opinions and those who delude themselves that they can intimidate others into accepting the rubbish and bile they spout via the rep system they hide behind. Sad, sad, people...

Originally Posted by techguyone

I can feel an ignore coming on. Thankfully no Mod Edit can come for a bit)

Now who'd be pathetic enough to do that I wonder?...

Yes, ignoring trolls, the rubbish they post and the threads they create is the best way to hurt them. They only feel validated when people are paying attention to them and since they're so very inadequate, the only way they can get the what they crave is trolling. I suppose we should pity them and their empty lives really...

No sorry richard your wrong carer's have always had the option of one on one interviews or group sessions this is absolutely nothing new beyond perhaps a new company handling the contract. I've both looked myself and contacted some contacts of my own just to be sure on this for my own piece of mind and there are no new plans by the government in relation to carer's nor has there been any new programs initiated in relation to carer's. I spend a lot of my time being concerned about my benefits because if they are withdrawn I'm well and truly screwed as i can't get employment and if my wife had read your op she'd have started panicking and worrying for absolutely zero reason so yeah unless your prepared to give some verifiable information that you so far have not given it's scaremongering.

[Taf]

I heard a rumour amongst other Carers, that they had been trying to find carers involved in Munchausens By Proxy, circa late 1990's.

[Anypermitedroute]

Has anyone tweeted this rob Yates guy regrading body language and 2 way mirrors or we all satisfied this is BS?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

Then give us some evidence

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You are scaremongering .You have provided no evidence that this is in anyway untoward or some 'secret plan' by the government.You stated in the first post that
" Their body language and facial expressions will be studied behind 2 way mirrors." giving no explanation and you continue to paint this as some bad thing so yes you are absolutely scaremongering,just the same as when you claimed Asda had a policy against gay people

The 2 way mirror comment was put in to make it look worse than it is to be honest. If you are informed they are there at the beginning then it defeats the object of them being used in the first place. However if they use them without telling you then that is a whole different matter.