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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
If I had to pick who is the more astute political thinker out of Theresa May or Nicola Sturgeon it's not really a choice as Sturgeon is not remotely as clever as she thinks and now she's going to be dealing with a stronger female leader. Much as they might want Scotland cannot prevent brexit the only question for Scotland is does it stay apart of the union or find a way to leave with the horrendous consequences that would have for Scotland.
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Actually Nicola is a very clever woman and knows exactly what she's doing. There are soft spots in the EU for Scotland and if they can convince the rest then technically Scotland could remain in the EU but then they would have to go independent, use the euro and accept freedom of movement which means a border at Carter Bar, Berwick, Carstairs, etc.
I kinda feel a bit daft now as I've supported the SNP since 1985 and I don't like the way they are going either. Yes I wanted independence but UDI wouldn't work as someone said no money. However, I suppose they could peg themselves to the currency. Trouble is, even using Scottish notes only is no use cos they are not allowed to print money unless they have a brand new currency and that, although workable, means they have to start from the low rung on the credit scale with the world banks.
This could have been sorted out before the independence vote, yes I believe it came too quick and should have been about 5 years later when they had time to sort things like currency. I bet they wish they had voted for independence now?
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Originally Posted by MarkC1984
I would hope if there is another vote for Scottish independence that the other countries in the Union get a vote. I know I would vote farewell to Scotland. Maybe then I can hate on Murray without being harassed for it.
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ROFL Indeed. Of course us Scots can say the same about the world cup with the English. We are bored to tears hearing about that too but I wouldn't go down the path of hatred. COME ON ANDY!
What I don't agree with is Scottish MPs voting on English issues. Now it's meant to be a United Kingdom Parliament I know but this is why devolution doesn't work. It has to be independence or nothing. The same would happen if Cities get devolution. They would want something and the Parliament would say no. Scotland can't have another referendum without Parliament's say-so, so it's either UDI or nothing there.
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Originally Posted by ntluser
If Scotland does leave the UK we will have to find a new home for our Trident submarines based at Faslane as Scotland are keen to show their non-nuclear credentials.
Moving the base to England would be difficult and expensive in what could be trying economic times.
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What came out during the independence debate was that they would be moved to America's north east and they seemed keen on that idea.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
If there is ever another Scottish independence referendum then it's right the rest of the union gets to have their say on the issue and perhaps that might stop the calls for it so much one thing to be the one wanting out another to find out others don't want you. I really don't want to go through another unpleasant voting campaign and we know for a certainty another independence referendum would be very unpleasant and whilst I don't expect Scots to constantly thank the rest of the UK it would be nice not to have the constant venom.
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As a Scot living in England I wrote to the SNP asking why Scots living in England, NI or Wales can't have a vote. If we can produce a Scottish birth certificate. They didn't bother replying but denied the vote to anyone outside Scotland.
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