12-07-2016, 15:55
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Indeed but wouldn't trading with the world even out that figure rather than be in deficit?
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12-07-2016, 17:18
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Brexit could take up to six years to complete according to a senior cabinet minister..
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...philip-hammond
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12-07-2016, 17:51
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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They'll try anything to prolong things if they think there's a chance of overturning the vote. It will take as long as they want it to take in that case but really it should only be 2 years or why have that 2 years?
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12-07-2016, 18:02
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Saying something as we know is very easy but actually doing things in a certain timeline is another..
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12-07-2016, 18:45
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
So if it takes four years why have exit process set for two another master stroke of the eu, who are we kidding it isn't going to take two years to know if we're going to get an acceptable deal or not. So we sound things out see where we stand and develop trade with the rest of the world and if it's within the two years we're not supposed to organise trade so what are they going to try and fine us. Worst thing the UK can do with the eu is to overly tenderfoot things are not great in the eu and likely to get worse rather then better they can't afford to be too entrenched anymore then we can.
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12-07-2016, 19:12
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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So if it takes four years why have exit process set for two another master stroke of the eu, who are we kidding it isn't going to take two years to know if we're going to get an acceptable deal or not. So we sound things out see where we stand and develop trade with the rest of the world and if it's within the two years we're not supposed to organise trade so what are they going to try and fine us. Worst thing the UK can do with the eu is to overly tenderfoot things are not great in the eu and likely to get worse rather then better they can't afford to be too entrenched anymore then we can.
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The 2 years is for A50 to run it's course which to be honest is probably generous ,it could possibly be done in 1yr quite easily .The trade talks are absolutely nothing to do with the 2 yrs A50 timescale,i would be surprised if we have all our trade deals in place inside of 10 yrs
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I see the Daily Mail is making stuff up again ,really is time that rag got closed down
http://news.sky.com/story/eu-referen...-vote-10499601
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MPs will debate the prospect of a second referendum on Britain's membership of the EU after more than four million people signed a petition.
The debate in the House of Commons has been scheduled for 5 September.
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12-07-2016, 20:09
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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and let that be a lesson to the other rags ,check the facts before copying and pasting articles from the Mail
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12-07-2016, 20:30
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Indeed but wouldn't trading with the world even out that figure rather than be in deficit?
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What?
We are trading with the world, but with a deficit.
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12-07-2016, 21:38
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Indeed but wouldn't trading with the world even out that figure rather than be in deficit?
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No, because successive governments have been seemingly encouraging companies to move manufacturing to other (not always european) countries, leaving the finance and other service industries to replace the gap in our GDP. The previous four governments (Blair, Brown, Coalition, Cameron) seem to have spent their time actively encouraging companies to outsource or move those industries that remain.
Note, while they may not have visibly encouraged companies in either instance, they certainly have done nothing to stop it.
Regardless of whether we are in or out of the EU or the EEA, we have some amazing engineers, mathematicians and scientists in this country, yet funding in those areas, at all levels from Education up is, IMO, woefully inadequate. A situation that is likely to get worse before it gets better as a result of us leaving the EU, as the EU currently provides 65% of our research funding, and our government have shown no interest in increasing their own funding.
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12-07-2016, 22:57
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Politicians have for years talked about how great the UK is and how much talent there is and that's all it is talk. Our education system has been neglected, retraining of the unemployed has been a money making racket for decades delivering nothing of worth and still the talk and inaction go on. Just a couple of the many reasons why people are running out of patience with politicians and why there is so much resentment in parts of the country.
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13-07-2016, 08:19
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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What?
We are trading with the world, but with a deficit.
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No we're not. What about the emerging economies? What about having more trade with the rest of the world like things we can't sell at the moment by starting to manufacture our own stuff like we used to?
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13-07-2016, 09:45
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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No we're not. What about the emerging economies? What about having more trade with the rest of the world like things we can't sell at the moment by starting to manufacture our own stuff like we used to?
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Because it's hard to compete with their production costs.
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13-07-2016, 09:53
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Originally Posted by Damien
Because it's hard to compete with their production costs.
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The introduction of trade tariffs from a lot of countries could mean that home manufacturing is more viable though.
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13-07-2016, 09:57
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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The introduction of trade tariffs from a lot of countries could mean that home manufacturing is more viable though.
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For internal use maybe but it will impact us exporting.
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