09-07-2016, 15:13
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Nobody has a problem with remainers voicing their opinions just the way that many have chosen to do it with insults and insinuations.
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09-07-2016, 15:26
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Nobody has a problem with remainers voicing their opinions just the way that many have chosen to do it with insults and insinuations.
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End outpouring of hate against those who voted Leave, says Ross Clarke
THE two most dramatic weeks in modern political history have revealed a number of things about Britain but none more so than that supposedly liberal-minded people can be bigoted and vicious when they feel that their opinions have been scorned.
Throughout the referendum campaign the Remain camp tried to claim the moral high ground. They claimed to stand up for love, peace and tolerance, while trying to depict the Leave campaign as narrow minded and xenophobic.
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/exp...t-Leave-voters
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09-07-2016, 15:46
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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What exactly are the point of these petitions if the Govt. can just totally ignore them ? Have they ever changed anything as a result ? They seems to be just for cosmetic reasons. Glad I only signed it 5 times 
Theresa is a Remainer anyway, her true intentions/tactics will come out in the fullness of time. She's playing a long game. Another recession will change the ground rules and referendums will become be less of an issue when the impacts hit peoples pockets.
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09-07-2016, 15:52
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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What exactly are the point of these petitions if the Govt. can just totally ignore them ? Have they ever changed anything as a result ? They seems to be just for cosmetic reasons. Glad I only signed it 5 times
Theresa is a Remainer anyway, her true intentions/tactics will come out in the fullness of time. She's playing a long game. Another recession will change the ground rules and referendums will become be less of an issue when the impacts hit peoples pockets. |
sensible [credible] petitions are acted upon [debated].
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09-07-2016, 15:54
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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sensible [credible] petitions are acted upon [debated].
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Oh yes, a good debate in the Commons with 5 dozing MPs at 2am will change a lot.
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09-07-2016, 16:00
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Oh yes, a good debate in the Commons with 5 dozing MPs at 2am will change a lot.
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not to worry because that petition went straight in the trash where it belongs feel free to start another
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09-07-2016, 16:30
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Good. Now we can get on with getting out of Dodge!
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Well apparently according to the Leavers the Remainers who DID vote have no right to complain..and should just shut up about it.
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As regards the result of the vote yes. However now it's over you can come on board and start planning your life for Brexit.
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What exactly are the point of these petitions if the Govt. can just totally ignore them ? Have they ever changed anything as a result ? They seems to be just for cosmetic reasons. Glad I only signed it 5 times
Theresa is a Remainer anyway, her true intentions/tactics will come out in the fullness of time. She's playing a long game. Another recession will change the ground rules and referendums will become be less of an issue when the impacts hit peoples pockets. |
What's the point of a democratic vote if people want to change it if it doesn't go their way? Here's an Idea. Can we re-run last year's General Election so the 4.5 million of us who voted UKIP can get more MPs?
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09-07-2016, 17:08
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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What exactly are the point of these petitions if the Govt. can just totally ignore them ? Have they ever changed anything as a result ? They seems to be just for cosmetic reasons.
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They need to rework them, far too often today's idiotic generation seem to be thinking that they can overcome Democracy by signing a (relatively low numbers) petition and as if by magic, the decision is overturned.
I'd make it a million+ votes & no guarantee of anything, it's bloody ridiculous a load of student union types can think they can circumnavigate democratic process by signing an online form.
Bah humbug and words of that ilk.
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09-07-2016, 17:28
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
As the referendum apparently had Royal Assent rather than just being invoked by the Government in power then the result has to be legally binding. I think Cameron shot himself in the foot there as it also means any legal challenge will fail. Not that I'm unhappy with the result. I voted to come out in 1975 and did so again this year.
I'm like @Big Brian, I knew what would transpire and did not agree with it then nor do I agree with it now. I firmly believe will are better off out of it.
BTW I remember being told here even informal talks cannot take place until A50 was invoked which I did agree with but consider this.
"Yesterday, Trade Secretary Sajid Javid flew to Delhi to start talks towards a trade deal with India. That is something we are forbidden from signing individually as a member of the EU – and yet the EU has failed on its own account to establish a trade deal with India, one of the fastest-growing economies in the world."
Sourcehttp://www.express.co.uk/comment/exp...t-Leave-voters
No doubt it will be happening with serveral other Commonwealth countries too.
Last edited by pip08456; 09-07-2016 at 17:29.
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09-07-2016, 18:06
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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The only thing that has changed since the referendum is that they have given up trying to tell us that Brexit will crash the economy – a claim hard to sustain given that the FTSE 100 is now higher than it was before the referendum.
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Clueless.
As far as the rest goes a quick look into the comments tells a story.
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Remainers: Hate-filled, bullying, ****. You lost, we won. Now live with it...we Brexiters did you a massive favour...you thick fools.
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What a charmer.
The irony of a newspaper that as part of its business model stirs up racial hatred publishing something like this is priceless.
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As the referendum apparently had Royal Assent rather than just being invoked by the Government in power then the result has to be legally binding.
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Que?
Royal assent is required for all Acts of Parliament - it's how they become law. The European Union Referendum Act certainly had royal assent, it had to, but this means nothing for whether or not the result is legally binding - it is not.
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09-07-2016, 18:09
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Good. Now we can get on with getting out of Dodge!
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As regards the result of the vote yes. However now it's over you can come on board and start planning your life for Brexit.
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What's the point of a democratic vote if people want to change it if it doesn't go their way? Here's an Idea. Can we re-run last year's General Election so the 4.5 million of us who voted UKIP can get more MPs?
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So, since the Tories won the last General Election, you can come on board and be happy with a Conservative Government...
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09-07-2016, 18:16
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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So, since the Tories won the last General Election, you can come on board and be happy with a Conservative Government... |
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sadly the democratic process is beyond some of our membership
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09-07-2016, 18:17
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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So, since the Tories won the last General Election, you can come on board and be happy with a Conservative Government... |
the government is only temporary and a vote can change it . Brexit is forever  so its good advice to plan your life around it .
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09-07-2016, 18:24
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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the government is only temporary and a vote can change it . Brexit is forever so its good advice to plan your life around it . |
Brexit isn't forever in the way Remain wasn't forever. The questions of what a new relationship should be are still there, it's wasn't an landslide win for Brexit, so many will now focus on how we can keep a strong link to the EU.
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09-07-2016, 18:30
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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the government is only temporary and a vote can change it . Brexit is forever so its good advice to plan your life around it . |
No Parliament may bind its successors.
If you prefer, once enough of you 'older folk' have shuffled off the mortal coil, us younger folk can most certainly elect politicians who will pursue membership of the European Union on our behalf.
Won't be with terms anywhere near as good as the ones we had of course, but many may well consider it a price worth paying.
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Brexit isn't forever in the way Remain wasn't forever. The questions of what a new relationship should be are still there, it's wasn't an landslide win for Brexit, so many will now focus on how we can keep a strong link to the EU.
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Right now, Damien, the 'smart' money is on our being outside the EEA altogether.
Tariff free trade in goods, but not in at least some services.
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