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Old 01-07-2016, 09:37   #31
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New candidate for Tory leader.

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Old 01-07-2016, 09:42   #32
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Re: Political leaders challenge

He's the same shade of grey as Theresa May.
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:45   #34
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Re: Political leaders challenge

Looks a weak candidate to me. Mr Gove has probably already buried Death's chancessssss...
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:22   #35
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Perhaps you can announce your candidacy old boy as you are a man of rare wisdom.
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Old 01-07-2016, 13:02   #36
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Thankfully gove ended any chance Boris had and in doing it ended his chance quite fitting really and given neither of them are the right person for the upcoming tasks it's better for the country it happened. What's needed right now is a person that can appeal to both sides and bring them together Theresa may is the best option and will be capable in dealing with the EU and I think she could be a very good prime minister.
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Thankfully gove ended any chance Boris had and in doing it ended his chance quite fitting really and given neither of them are the right person for the upcoming tasks it's better for the country it happened. What's needed right now is a person that can appeal to both sides and bring them together Theresa may is the best option and will be capable in dealing with the EU and I think she could be a very good prime minister.
But she's a Remainer (spit).
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Gove had a really detailed agenda but I wonder how realistic it is for him to enact it without a mandate. He basically has a entirely new manifesto for government.....
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We won the vote now is the time for reconciliation and rebuilding our society she is committed to our leaving the EU and will do what's best for the UK and she's a realist and no pushover we are going to need that more then supporting a leave candidate in the future. Gove is the only real leave candidate and after recent events where he demonstrated his personal ambition I am not confident in him doing the right thing St the right time.
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So apparently, at least according to Boris' camp, Gove obtained the list the Boris campaign had of supportive MPs late last week and spent the intervening time canvassing support from them before timing the announcement to ensure it caused maximum damage.

I wouldn't have thought that Gove had that level of ruthlessness!
And here's me thinking that the Gover and Boris where hashing out plans for the UK after Brexit ,seems they where just hashing out each other

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We won the vote now is the time for reconciliation and rebuilding our society she is committed to our leaving the EU and will do what's best for the UK and she's a realist and no pushover we are going to need that more then supporting a leave candidate in the future. Gove is the only real leave candidate and after recent events where he demonstrated his personal ambition I am not confident in him doing the right thing St the right time.
I'm in favour of Theresa May as well .
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I'd just like a breath of fresh air and have someone with no Scottish origins for once.
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l think you might be disappointed Taf..

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Gove is the only real leave candidate and after recent events where he demonstrated his personal ambition I am not confident in him doing the right thing St the right time.
I don't see anything wrong with personal ambition; isn't politics a career in which you have to be ambitious, self-confident and, well, a little bit ruthless?

Theresa May is very competent but I would be a little concerned that her health is robust enough for what lies ahead. She is already doing a good job as Home Secretary: Mr Gove would release her to achieve more in that post imho.
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I don't see anything wrong with personal ambition; isn't politics a career in which you have to be ambitious, self-confident and, well, a little bit ruthless?
The problem is he has to win support of his MPs before he gets to be put before the members.

Nothing wrong with personal ambition but it's the way he did it which seems to have alienated a lot of his colleagues. We say this is politics but politics requires some trust to function.

If he had decided to run against Boris in the aftermath of the vote then they would deem that fair, even Boris' perceived calculated approach to support Leave was deemed fair. However making yourself campaign manager for a rival and planning everything to cause maximum destruction to that rival seems to be beyond what would be considered 'fair game' in the dark arts of politics. It's ruthlessly dishonest. It's a political manoeuvre that's impossible to defend against and if commonplace would destroy any ability for politics to function if the people running your campaign were out to screw you.

Tory MPs might be asking how can they trust him when Cameron was a close friend and he did him in only for him to be given a position of trust from Boris which he promptly used to screw him over too.

If you were offered a job in cabinet in return for your support how would you know he wouldn't stab you in the back the moment he won?
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