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			The fact you are white is not racist at all, I am also white. The fact you seem to need to stress it whereas I don't seems odd. 
We are both white, you seem to think it means more than anything else. I don't.  
 
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				We can't get on until the Conservatives elect a new PM and they do not seem to be in a hurry to do that even though the £ is under severe pressure and shares are dropping rapidly in value. 
 
It is similar to the Titanic band playing on regardless while the Titanic was sinking instead of  taking action. 
 
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 If Cameron did the right thing and invoked article 50 now then we could progress, It is not the politicians who do the deals it is our Diplomats and Civil Service, they cannot do anything until it is invoked, Europe has told us so.
 
Invoke A50 and let them get on with it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-06-2016, 19:32
			
			
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				Remainers were very clear before the result, even a difference of ONE VOTE would be accepted, remain also said A50 would be triggered the next day, bunch of liars. 
 
Personally the best thing to come out of the referendum (outside of London) is the massive sense of community in England. For the first time ever as a white English man I feel part of a community and it's a community that I won't let go of! 
 
I'm sure everyone here agree it's great that the English finally got a healthy sense of community. 
			
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 Yes it's not like leavers lied about immigration lied about money and lied about control at all is it.
 
What sense of community are your talking about when the country is utterly divided?
 
Why do need to single yourself out as a white English male to be part of your new found community?
 
But hey let's invoke A50 without any sense of the way forward. 
 
What do you propose access to the single market, EEA trade under normal WTO regulations? how much of this fabled sovereignty are you willing to give up for access?
 
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			28-06-2016, 19:35
			
			
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				The fact you are white is not racist at all, I am also white. The fact you seem to need to stress it whereas I don't seems odd. 
 
We are both white, you seem to think it means more than anything else. I don't. 
			
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 Given that we can't see each other and can't rely on avatar photographs as an indicator of colour,  a comment can easily be misunderstood because the poster is perceived as being one colour when they are actually another.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Invoke A50 and let them get on with it. 
			
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 If we invoke A50 and parliament vetos the Brexit we will lose all established benefits. They may even force us to adopt the EURO.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			28-06-2016, 19:36
			
			
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				If Cameron did the right thing and invoked article 50 now then we could progress, It is not the politicians who do the deals it is our Diplomats and Civil Service, they cannot do anything until it is invoked, Europe has told us so. 
 
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 He has been asked by both the civil service and Leave campaigners not to invoke it. We shouldn't invoke it until we know what we want.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				If we invoke A50 and parliament vetos the Brexit we will lose all established benefits. They may even force us to adopt the EURO. 
			
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 Don't worry that will not happen , Brexit is happening!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-06-2016, 19:39
			
			
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				The fact you are white is not racist at all, I am also white. The fact you seem to need to stress it whereas I don't seems odd. 
 
We are both white, you seem to think it means more than anything else. I don't. 
 
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If Cameron did the right thing and invoked article 50 now then we could progress, It is not the politicians who do the deals it is our Diplomats and Civil Service, they cannot do anything until it is invoked, Europe has told us so. 
 
Invoke A50 and let them get on with it. 
			
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 Given that David Cameron got the verdict so wrong he felt that he could not continue and opted not to put the his fellow Conservatives on the spot until they were ready to deal with the EU.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Given that we can't see each other and can't rely on avatar photographs as an indicator of colour, a comment can easily be misunderstood because the poster is perceived as being one colour when they are actually another. 
			
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 True. it's like myself. I'm black, but a lot of people think I'm white.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				He has been asked by both the civil service and Leave campaigners not to invoke it. We shouldn't invoke it until we know what we want. 
			
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 The rest of Europe say no informal deals until invoked. 2yrs to decide what is wanted and should be decided sooner than that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				The fact you are white is not racist at all, I am also white. The fact you seem to need to stress it whereas I don't seems odd. 
 
We are both white, you seem to think it means more than anything else. I don't. 
 
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If Cameron did the right thing and invoked article 50 now then we could progress, It is not the politicians who do the deals it is our Diplomats and Civil Service, they cannot do anything until it is invoked, Europe has told us so. 
 
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 So you think a Black women's centre that stress's the fact it's for black women is racist? Or any black person that stressed their colour is racist?
 
You're from a time that is now over, saying you're white English is fine. Move with the times or stay in your out of date state of mind..
 
But anyway, you called me a racist on a public forum, you're going to have to back it up!!!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				If we invoke A50 and parliament vetos the Brexit we will lose all established benefits. They may even force us to adopt the EURO. 
			
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 To invoke Article 50 Parliament must first revoke the 1972 European Communities Act as that is still law. Invoking Article 50 will start that process and give us plenty of time to do a deal with the EU as to trading.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				True. it's like myself. I'm black, but a lot of people think I'm white. 
			
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 Ideally on any forum nobody should be posting racist comments and the colour of any poster on the forum should be irrelevant in any discussion in which people have differences.
 
If someone has to resort to racist comments to make their point they have lost the argument.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				So you think a Black women's centre that stress's the fact it's for black women is racist? Or any black person that stressed their colour is racist? 
 
You're from a time that is now over, saying you're white English is fine. Move with the times or stay in your out of date state of mind.. 
 
But anyway, you called me a racist on a public forum, you're going to have to back it up!!! 
			
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 Yes I do think a Black Woman's Centre is racist. Racisism works both ways. As a  White Englshman I think your stressing the fact is rasist.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Yes I do think a Black Woman's Centre is racist. Racisism works both ways. As a White Englshman I think your stressing the fact is rasist. 
			
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See I think a Black/Asain women's centre of which there are many is very very important to those community's. So please explain why you feel they're racist?
 
An "racism works both ways"... What the hell, racism never works and you're either racist or you're not. You can't be a little bit racist.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I am not, never have been racisit.  
 
"Works both ways" is simple. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. 
 
If you are racisit towards anyone they will be to you. 
 
It's about time you researched the history of the English People. At least I have and can argue on my behalf of what being "English" means to me.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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