25-06-2016, 17:16
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Re: Cameron resigns
Armed guards have been placed outside Cameron's home.
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25-06-2016, 17:18
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Re: Cameron resigns
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Armed guards have been placed outside Cameron's home.
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why has the wife kicked him out ??
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25-06-2016, 19:30
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Re: Cameron resigns
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Armed guards have been placed outside Cameron's home.
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That's to keep him in, not anyone out.
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25-06-2016, 19:37
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Re: Cameron resigns
I voted out and when i saw Cameron resigned i was sooooo happy!
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25-06-2016, 22:28
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Re: Cameron resigns
The move in leaving article 50 to his successor was masterful.
Someone else, likely Boris, is going to be down in history as the person who formally began the break up.
This was in the comments sections of everyone's least favourite newspaper.
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If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
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26-06-2016, 01:36
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Re: Cameron resigns
Pointless posts removed, stick to the topic and be sensible people.
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26-06-2016, 01:43
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Re: Cameron resigns
Some of these remain people really need to get a reality check you didn't win for god sake whoever takes over will put it right....
Shall we talk about past Gov that have ruined this country before we start on the EU?
Get over it get a life
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26-06-2016, 02:36
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Re: Cameron resigns
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
Some of these remain people really need to get a reality check you didn't win for god sake whoever takes over will put it right....
Shall we talk about past Gov that have ruined this country before we start on the EU?
Get over it get a life
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Really like this guy...
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/rememb...endum-5963900/
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26-06-2016, 08:34
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Re: Cameron resigns
Ironically the person who started the petition was a Leave supporter who started it thinking they had lost the referendum.
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26-06-2016, 09:03
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Re: Cameron resigns
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Originally Posted by Damien
Ironically the person who started the petition was a Leave supporter who started it thinking they had lost the referendum.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/683...ail-the-Brexit
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