Post-Brexit Thread

[techguyone]

Originally Posted by ntluser

Even if Scotland got its independence they would be in the same position as us trying to negotiate trade talks. It could take some time.

I'm not sure they can, Sturgeon can stamp her foot how she likes, it doesn't mean diddly.

Well Salmond was told two years ago that the EU won't hold any discussions with a region of a member state, it's likely Sturgeon be told to go and play in the corner whilst the grownups talk.

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by techguyone

I'm not sure they can, Sturgeon can stamp her foot how she likes, it doesn't mean diddly.

I think she is preparing the ground for a possible new independence referendum in the hope that once free of the UK the EU will let Scotland join at an accelerated rate.

I suspect that given the apparent anger at the UK generally the EU probably doesn't really want anything to do with us.

Wonder if the remain areas of London are thinking of going independent too!!

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by martyh

I know just a tongue in cheek comment on some of the barmy reasons some people have voted to leave ,not that i'm complaining of course

I dare say some may not know the difference.

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Originally Posted by techguyone

I'm not sure they can, Sturgeon can stamp her foot how she likes, it doesn't mean diddly.

Normally, I'd agree majority rules but this is a different case. Scotland has her own Parliament and could be independent in 2 years.

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Originally Posted by ntluser

I think she is preparing the ground for a possible new independence referendum in the hope that once free of the UK the EU will let Scotland join at an accelerated rate.

I suspect that given the apparent anger at the UK generally the EU probably doesn't really want anything to do with us.

Wonder if the remain areas of London are thinking of going independent too!!

It is just possible London could become a State within a State like the Vatican.

Good article here: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/b...-great-divide/

He is right about the overlooked people in society although I think he makes the same generalisations of Remainers as he accuses them of making about Leavers.

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Originally Posted by Big Brian

It is just possible London could become a State within a State like the Vatican.

Nope. I think London should have more devolved powers though. It is getting to the point where policy needs to be different, i.e housing, than the rest of the country. I am not sure what it would involve exactly but the country can't be helped by a London-centric focus and London can't be helped by measures targeting the rest of the country.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Hysterics. Ya.

http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk...s-brexit/?_ga=

Spoke to a friend in the US who works for JP Morgan Chase and she confirms an internal memo to this effect: the Bank is drawing up contingency plans to relocate key divisions from the UK.

Hopefully Brexit means some positive changes for London, go to Paris experience the rich heritage of France and hear the amazing French language every where you go. Infact that's the same all European Capital city's. Now go for a day trip to London the capital of England..................

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Originally Posted by ianch99

Spoke to a friend in the US who works for JP Morgan Chase and she confirms an internal memo to this effect: the Bank is drawing up contingency plans to relocate key divisions from the UK.

You've had a friend/colleague/neighbour/relative who has experienced/confirmed everything that's been stated about Brexit so far. Amazing, see you're busy on DS....

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by Damien

Good article here: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/b...-great-divide/

He is right about the overlooked people in society although I think he makes the same generalisations of Remainers as he accuses them of making about Leavers.

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Nope. I think London should have more devolved powers though. It is getting to the point where policy needs to be different, i.e housing, than the rest of the country. I am not sure what it would involve exactly but the country can't be helped by a London-centric focus and London can't be helped by measures targeting the rest of the country.

Interesting article. Reminds me of the French Revolution with the Aristocrats on one side and the French peasants on the other.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Can someone please explain this.

I was told today, that the country that is most worried is Poland, and the polish people that are here already.

Now that we have voted to get out of Europe. Surely that IF Polish residents are here. It wont effect them ?

Might affect the child benefit they can send home to children that don't live herr

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

Good article here: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/b...-great-divide/

He is right about the overlooked people in society although I think he makes the same generalisations of Remainers as he accuses them of making about Leavers.

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Nope. I think London should have more devolved powers though. It is getting to the point where policy needs to be different, i.e housing, than the rest of the country. I am not sure what it would involve exactly but the country can't be helped by a London-centric focus and London can't be helped by measures targeting the rest of the country.

Yes it is a interesting read.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by techguyone

Umm still not really getting it. Isn't this what border control is for, so any Tom Dick or Harry doesn't just roll up, last time I checked we were an Island, why exactly would we be obliged to have a camp in Dover?

I must be getting old.

You are right though. As I mentioned earlier, the French are feeling under no obligation to host UK Border Control. Indeed, why should they when we are now leaving the EU?

If migrants want to come to the UK, the UK will have to handle it. The French can just watch and drink their wine

If the migrants do make it across the Channel then there may well be a camp in Dover.

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Originally Posted by RBMark

Hopefully Brexit means some positive changes for London, go to Paris experience the rich heritage of France and hear the amazing French language every where you go. Infact that's the same all European Capital city's. Now go for a day trip to London the capital of England..................

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You've had a friend/colleague/neighbour/relative who has experienced/confirmed everything that's been stated about Brexit so far. Amazing, see you're busy on DS....

Is it that you just do not like people having different opinions to you? As far as I can tell, you think someone that debates anything contrary to your position requires insulting ... where did you learn this debating style?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

Well, people from both sides have been suggesting they, along with all other EU nationals (Ireland included) by the Vienna convention

However, again this may not be accurate https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...k-after-brexit

From a personal point of view, my girlfriend is Austrian, has worked everyday here for 6 years, never used NHS and paid in and adapted to British life, hell she even has a season ticket for cricket with me.

And suddenly she feels rather unwelcome and to be honest I can't give her a good answer as to guarantee she is safe to remain here.

If suddenly she is made to go I would of course follow her to Austria but the flip side is as soon to be non-eu my once freedom of movement and right to work (and even travel to see her family) may not be allowed in Austria and why should they if we do the same to them

Thanks UK, thanks a bunch

My nephew has insisted his mother applies for a German passport so he can work abroad, as an Arabic translator I've told him his skills will be much in demand without the need for duel nationality

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Originally Posted by RBMark

There won't be a blanket get out and go home rule applied, because we the people of Britian won't allow it. This is still the amazingly tolerant vibrant country it always was.

We will just be able to have control over our own laws now,

Or because the Strasbourg (iirc) treaty we signed up to won't allow it

Originally Posted by Russ

Absolutely, and may that never ever change.

I put the following on Facebook earlier in response to so many people posting things saying we don't have the right to be called Great anymore..

I don't see why this can't be an opportunity to show how Great we can be. Being all negative and defeatist is what removing the Great would be and yes the doom and gloom of Friday would be just that but if we're going to do this why not show the world how resilient we can be? Let's use this to fire up a patriotic British resurgence. I'm all for that as long as it's done *properly* and by that I mean celebrating GB and NOT hating or being hostile to anything foreign. Let's be proud of our country but the kind of pride that's colour blind and respects all other nations. Although I do respect the country I'm not a fan of Americanisms but the love they (generally) have for all things American is the sort of national pride we ought to have for Great Britain.

Again I only support an inclusive British pride, no racism or xenophobia should ever be cultivated or tolerated. Britain First, NF, BNP, EDL etc can all go to hell. We don't want the sort of GB they promote.

Let's have a truly great Great Britain rising from this!

I can't remember where I heard this but doesn't the great in Britain refer to our location to Brittany, Greater and lesser, it was never to do with self congratulation or jingoism

Originally Posted by ianch99

Spoke to a friend in the US who works for JP Morgan Chase and she confirms an internal memo to this effect: the Bank is drawing up contingency plans to relocate key divisions from the UK.

https://next.ft.com/content/a3a92744...5-82a9b15a8ee7

To be expected. Hopefully we'll keep most of it though. We have to try and ensure services in included in any agreement.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

My nephew has insisted his mother applies for a German passport so he can work abroad, as an Arabic translator I've told him his skills will be much in demand without the need for duel nationality

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Or because the Strasbourg (iirc) treaty we signed up to won't allow it



I can't remember where I heard this but doesn't the great in Britain refer to our location to Brittany, Greater and lesser, it was never to do with self congratulation or jingoism

Correct. Makes more sense in French, where their province is Bretagne and we are Grand Bretagne.

[heero_yuy]

This was one of the gambling banks that in this case had to bailed out by the fed to the tune of $100m. Not exactly a shining example of probity.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

No absolutely, you and many others in your situation have every right to be angry at this, even more so as I very much doubt a concrete plan will be announced any time soon.

There's a plan, the remain side should've pushed to hear what it was, things could've been different if they'd concentrated on what the opposition were saying and expected the future to hold rather than painting scary pictures of wwiii