[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[ianch99]

The cowardly sniping reminds me to thank the ignore list.

Let me make this clear: Leave won. Remain lost.

As soon as Leave won, I was one of the first to post congratulations.

However, when it is clear beyond doubt that the Leave campaign lied:

Eight reasons Leave won the UK's referendum on the EU

2. £350m NHS claim gets traction

The assertion that leaving the EU would free up £350m a week extra to spend on the NHS is the kind of political slogan that campaigns dream of: striking, easy to understand and attractive to voters of different ages and political persuasions.

No surprise then that Vote Leave chose to splash it across the side of their battle bus.
The fact that the claim does not stand up to much scrutiny - the figure is calculated using sums which were disputed by the Treasury Select Committee and described as potentially misleading by the UK Statistics Authority - did not reduce its potency.

Remain campaigner Angela Eagle may have told her opponents to "get that lie off your bus" but polling suggests it gained traction and was the single most remembered figure from the campaign, with many people believing that money handed over to the EU to be a member should be spent in the UK instead.

In that sense, it served as a powerful illustration of how the UK could be better off outside the EU.

What I had hoped for was that someone would do the decent thing and admit so much.

It seems not. I had expected more but I guess if you expect nothing, you won't get disappointed.

I am now going to get very drunk

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

The EU don't seem to want to wait for us to invoke article 50.

We will ork to our timetable not theirs.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by RBMark

Good, once invoked it's irreversible... Rules out a second referendum. They will want to send out a message to any other "member states" thinking about referendum. An also why should the EU be left with the state of instability whilst we decide when we wish to leave. Get the process started!

It's amazing what a slap in the face does eh? The tectonically slow EU all of a sudden wants to get things done in a hurry. Maybe they should have tried that before the referendum...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by ianch99

The cowardly sniping reminds me to thank the ignore list.

Let me make this clear: Leave won. Remain lost.

As soon as Leave won, I was one of the first to post congratulations.

However, when it is clear beyond doubt that the Leave campaign lied:

Eight reasons Leave won the UK's referendum on the EU



What I had hoped for was that someone would do the decent thing and admit so much.

It seems not. I had expected more but I guess if you expect nothing, you won't get disappointed.

I am now going to get very drunk

The £350M issue was resolved and corrected way before the end of the debate.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RBMark

No 75% of those 18-24 year olds WHO VOTED voted in. Not 75% of all 18-24 year olds. The turn out in the age group is appearing to be very very low!

its about 34% turn out i think[ if i'm wrong lets not any one go to war over it

---------- Post added at 20:33 ---------- Previous post was at 20:29 ----------

Originally Posted by Osem

It's amazing what a slap in the face does eh? The tectonically slow EU all of a sudden wants to get things done in a hurry. Maybe they should have tried that before the referendum...

maybe they don't want sturgeons followers to get a chance of getting back in

[techguyone]

Originally Posted by Pierre

We will ork to our timetable not theirs.

I agree, one should always ork to our time and not ork to theirs.

Originally Posted by Osem

It's amazing what a slap in the face does eh? The tectonically slow EU all of a sudden wants to get things done in a hurry. Maybe they should have tried that before the referendum...

The EU only want Article 50 invoked ASAP so as to give them control,once that is invoked they can then take their sweet time ,even extend the 2 year deadline should they wish

Originally Posted by martyh

The EU only want Article 50 invoked ASAP so as to give them control,once that is invoked they can then take their sweet time ,even extend the 2 year deadline should they wish

Nope, if no agreement is reached within the 2 years we will be automatically removed from the EU. We can just leave tomorrow aswell if we want- but that is a nightmare situation no one wants.

Originally Posted by RBMark

Nope, if no agreement is reached within the 2 years we will be automatically removed from the EU. We can just leave tomorrow aswell if we want- but that is a nightmare situation no one wants.

Wrong ,if all states agree the negotiation can be extended beyond the 2 years and why is leaving by not using article 50 a nightmare situation that nobody wants ? Invoking article 50 means that we will still be subject to all EU laws and conduct EU business as normal including handing over money.

This is a good article: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ty-westminster

Anyone think we should have another thread? I might rename the other one about Article 50 to put all post-Brexit reaction there.

Originally Posted by Damien

This is a good article: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ty-westminster

Anyone think we should have another thread? I might rename the other one about Article 50 to put all post-Brexit reaction there.

Good idea

Originally Posted by Damien

This is a good article: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ty-westminster

Anyone think we should have another thread? I might rename the other one about Article 50 to put all post-Brexit reaction there.

It's true, if you're rich own a company, like cheap labour to exploit you voted in. If you're not wealthy but getting by on a decent to low wage you vote out!

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by martyh

Good idea

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...it-thread.html

Locked. Move to new thread etc...