[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by RBMark

Meh, let Scotland leave, then they can't influence the result of elections should they happen.


Remainers need to realise all the doom and gloom they say will happen due to us leaving IS HAPPENING right now and for a few years in many British community's. NHS under strai , schools struggling to cope, jobs losses, etc etc.

But we must not forget about the Arts don't you know!!!! Talk about out of touch.

I totally agree. It doesn't work the way it is because the English can't have a say in how Scotland's run and it should be the other way around, especially if it doesn't effect Scotland. This is just one reason for an independent Scotland. It isn't fair because they are making decisions on English matters. Some will say it's cause it's a UK Parliament and I would say then have an English Parliament as well and a main Parliament for the more important UK matters.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Morgan Stanley looks to move 2,000 London staff out of the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-36561095

As I said during the Scottish referendum these companies who threaten these things are going to do it anyway. Others will take their place once the dust settles.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by RBMark

A petition for a 2nd referendum approaches 100000 signatures which will force the government to give it consideration.

I say let Scotland leave the UK, then have a second referendum.

Can you post a link? I'm not demand evidence or anything, just curious..

Still, as Chris says, an internet petition doesn't necessarily achieve anything. Yes, the government are supposed to consider it when it reaches 100,000 signatures, but how do you know their definition of considering it doesn't just mean an Admin assistant looking at it for 30 seconds, thinking, then deciding not to put it up for discussion?

Originally Posted by Stuart

Can you post a link? I'm not demand evidence or anything, just curious..

Still, as Chris says, an internet petition doesn't necessarily achieve anything. Yes, the government are supposed to consider it when it reaches 100,000 signatures, but how do you know their definition of considering it doesn't just mean an Admin assistant looking at it for 30 seconds, thinking, then deciding not to put it up for discussion?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7099996.html

Worth mentioning the legalise cannabis petition reached its 100000 target much faster than this one.

We should a petition for invoking article 50, that's what needs to happen. Once it's invoked we can still take out time. I can see us never leaving Europe even after a democratic vote. But I see massive unrest if this referendum is not respected.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by RBMark

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7099996.html

Worth mentioning the legalise cannabis petition reached its 100000 target much faster than this one.

We should a petition for invoking article 50, that's what needs to happen. Once it's invoked we can still take out time. I can see us never leaving Europe even after a democratic vote. But I see massive unrest if this referendum is not respected.

FGS whatever happened to respecting the outcome?

Originally Posted by Big Brian

FGS whatever happened to respecting the outcome?

There won't be a second referendum, it's just desperation by those who hate democracy and everything it stands for!

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by RBMark

There won't be a second referendum, it's just desperation by those who hate democracy and everything it stands for!

I think Scotland voted to stay in the EU by 62% to 38% and are now being forced out by the rest of the UK. Some would say that is undemocratic ..

They don't hate democracy as long as it says what they want but if remain had won no doubt a leaver would have started a similar petition.

Originally Posted by ianch99

I think Scotland voted to stay in the EU by 62% to 38% and are now being forced out by the rest of the UK. Some would say that is undemocratic ..

They're going to potentially have a second in/out referendum if they vote to stay knowing we are leaving the EU then that will settle it. But the realisation that Scotland will be a target for immigrants from the EU that can no longer enter England may put them off.

[ianch99]

Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake'

Nigel Farage has admitted that it was a "mistake" to promise that £350million a week would be spent on the NHS if the UK backed a Brexit vote.

Speaking just an hour after the Leave vote was confirmed the Ukip leader said the money could not be guaranteed and claimed he would never have made the promise in the first place.

Well, I suppose we did say that they were lying ...

Originally Posted by ianch99

Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake'





Well, I suppose we did say that they were lying ...

Farage was never part of the official Brexit campaign as you well know. Now let's see if war breaks out across Europe just like Remain said it would.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I think Scotland voted to stay in the EU by 62% to 38% and are now being forced out by the rest of the UK. Some would say that is undemocratic ..

but with a 60% turnout some might say 40% didn't give a hootenanny .

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by RBMark

Farage was never part of the official Brexit campaign as you well know.

Well, I have heard them all now. I don't know whether to laugh or cry ..

That is the most feeble excuse I have ever heard on this forum and there have been quite a few in my time here. Congratulations ...

The problem with winning, as the Lib Dems found out 6 years ago, is that you then have to deliver on your promises. Gove and Johnson have a lot of difficult times ahead.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RBMark

Farage was never part of the official Brexit campaign as you well know. Now let's see if war breaks out across Europe just like Remain said it would.

...
iv'e been to the shops and can report no rationing

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

...
iv'e been to the shops and can report no rationing

The trouble is you tend to go to all those posh stores where there are generally one or two in there as you need to go to the cheap stores where they are queueing round the block papa.