[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[Horizon]

Clearly, England and most of Wales want to leave to the EU. This vote if it does go to the leave camp, has clear implications for the country. Namely that London which is mainly foreign dominated and Scotland, are going in a totally different direction to the rest of the UK.

I'll be delighted if we leave the EU, but if Salmond and co call for a second independence referendum for Scotland, that will have far wider implications than toady's vote. But, if we have to say bye to the Scots too, so be it.

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BBC calls it for the leave camp.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Horizon

Clearly, England and most of Wales want to leave to the EU. This vote if it does go to the leave camp, has clear implications for the country. Namely that London which is mainly foreign dominated and Scotland, are going in a totally different direction to the rest of the UK.

I'll be delighted if we leave the EU, but if Salmond and co call for a second independence referendum for Scotland, that will have far wider implications than toady's vote. But, if we have to say bye to the Scots too, so be it.

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BBC calls it for the leave camp.

ITV TOO!!!

Leave passed the 75% mark first. Looks like they are going to win it, roughly 52% to 48%.

[Jimmy-J]

Originally Posted by Julian

ITV TOO!!!

And Sky

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Horizon

Clearly, England and most of Wales want to leave to the EU. This vote if it does go to the leave camp, has clear implications for the country. Namely that London which is mainly foreign dominated and Scotland, are going in a totally different direction to the rest of the UK.

I'll be delighted if we leave the EU, but if Salmond and co call for a second independence referendum for Scotland, that will have far wider implications than toady's vote. But, if we have to say bye to the Scots too, so be it.

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BBC calls it for the leave camp.

If nothing else it'll be interesting to see the answers to the questions no one wanted to answer, like what happens now we're out

Now we have to hope our politicians do far better then they have done up to now, project fear was never a good tactic and I'm glad it's failed not least because the message going forward is campaign positively and with good information. That was the biggest failing on both sides total lack of verifiable information leaving this very much an emotional referendum and once that was the case remain were not in for an easy time. Over the next few weeks personally I expect the markets and the EU to do everything they can to diminish the uk economy setting up another referendum so we can make the right choice.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Leave passed the 75% mark first. Looks like they are going to win it, roughly 52% to 48%.

And the "experts" got it wrong yet again.

[TheDaddy]

I'd have changed my vote to leave if I'd known this was going to happen for sure, I joked about it the other day but it happened, couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people either

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eferendum.html

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Now we have to hope our politicians do far better then they have done up to now, project fear was never a good tactic and I'm glad it's failed not least because the message going forward is campaign positively and with good information. That was the biggest failing on both sides total lack of verifiable information leaving this very much an emotional referendum and once that was the case remain were not in for an easy time. Over the next few weeks personally I expect the markets and the EU to do everything they can to diminish the uk economy setting up another referendum so we can make the right choice.

As I said earlier in the thread, I'd expect a financial meltdown on Brexit and that is now happening. So, to be fair to them, they were just telling the truth in the short term at least. But once all the fear has gone, there will be light at the end of the tunnel..... unless we block the tunnel (Channel Tunnel) up!

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Horizon

As I said earlier in the thread, I'd expect a financial meltdown on Brexit and that is now happening. So, to be fair to them, they were just telling the truth in the short term at least. But once all the fear has gone, there will be light at the end of the tunnel..... unless we block the tunnel (Channel Tunnel) up!

Any financial meltdown will be because of no other reason than the markets themselves made it happen. Nothing is happening overnight to justify it. They are assuming(ie have been told) that everybody is going to sell. In that situation nobody wants to be left holding stock that is worth less than before.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Horizon

As I said earlier in the thread, I'd expect a financial meltdown on Brexit and that is now happening. So, to be fair to them, they were just telling the truth in the short term at least. But once all the fear has gone, there will be light at the end of the tunnel..... unless we block the tunnel (Channel Tunnel) up!

Originally Posted by nomadking

Any financial meltdown will be because of no other reason than the markets themselves made it happen. Nothing is happening overnight to justify it. They are assuming(ie have been told) that everybody is going to sell. In that situation nobody wants to be left holding stock that is worth less than before.

I think they're going to have to suspend share dealing immediately.

[Russ]

I'm just hoping this result doesn't lead to an increase in racist attitudes.

Obviously voting Leave does not make someone racist but there are a LOT of thick people out there who will see this as a green light to be hostile towards anyone they don't consider 'British'.

I don't agree Russ there are no more idiots today then there were yesterday, not a single person I know that voted leave has even the slightest racist tendency far from it most have talked about leave as a chance to really become a global trading nation. Are there racists sadly yes and I'm sure a few of the knuckle draggers might see this as a chance to be more public with their racism but I also believe the ordinary public will shut them down quick as has been the case in the past.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Leave passed the 75% mark first. Looks like they are going to win it, roughly 52% to 48%.

Looks like you called that right. We're out!!!

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I'd have changed my vote to leave if I'd known this was going to happen for sure, I joked about it the other day but it happened, couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people either

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eferendum.html

I did say yesterday I was quietly confident.

[ianch99]

Farage:

this will be a victory for real people, a victory for ordinary people, a victory for decent people

Humility in winning ... good to know 48% of the country is not real, not ordinary and not decent ..