[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[papa smurf]

Staying in the EU will be CATASTROPHIC for state and private pensions, expert warns

ONE of Britain's foremost pensions experts has warned that remaining in the EU will be catastrophic for both state and private pensions in the UK.


if the UK remains in the EU it could become liable for pensions in other countries such as Greece, Italy, Spain and France where the economies are failing and the countries are unable to meet their vast pensions obligations.

something to think about eventually every one retires, do you wan't to spend your last years in poverty ?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...xit-referendum


Cameron's migration deception: PM knew FOUR years ago he'd never meet immigration target while inside the EU, reveals former closest aide

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[Osem]

Yes, Cameron knew all about it:

Civil servants told David Cameron in 2012 that it was "impossible" for the government to meet its flagship immigration pledge, the PM's former director of strategy has claimed.

Steve Hilton said Mr Cameron was told "explicitly and directly" that EU free movement rules meant net migration could not be reduced below 100,000.

The target featured in the Tories' election manifesto last year.

A Downing Street spokesman said: "We simply do not recognise this story."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36582391

I quite believe it but whether he was lying or not, it was never a promise he was going to be able to meet as the net migration figures quite clearly show. He was either telling porkies or completely misunderstood the forces at work within Europe and either way it doesn't say much for him. I fear we're going to be stuck in an era of politics in which our leaders just lie through their teeth when it suits, knowing that by the time the truth becomes apparent, the votes will have been cast. Nice eh?...

[Jimmy-J]

Not long left now before we find out that we won't be leaving.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J

Not long left now before we find out that we won't be leaving.

I hope you like Turkish food.

[Osem]

No need to worry about that - David Beckham reckons we're all stronger facing the world's problems together so he's voting in. I'm just wonder who his 'we' is? From what I've seen, all he and Posh have done whilst acquiring so much more than they could ever need is to separate themselves from everyone apart, of course, from the elite they choose to mix and compare their vast trappings of success with. I look forward to the day when they and the rest of the great and the good who preach one thing yet do another actually put their 'money' where their mouths are but I won't be holding my breath.

It's always amazed me that more people don't seem to question why so many high profile people who talk the talk on tackling global poverty etc. spend so much of their time acquiring ever larger shares of the world's shrinking resources...

[Pierre]

The silent majority will win, and that is the remain side.

As in the GE the Left were the most in your face, dominating social media and shouting down debate and any that dare disagree with them.

The silent Centre right and right did their talking on polling day.

again as in the Scottish referendum the Nats dominated social media, stifled debate and shouting down anyone that disagreed with them.

The unionists did their talking on polling day.

and I predict the same on Thursday. Forget the Polls

Come Friday the UK will still be in the EU.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Sadly Arthur, since that MP was killed, anyone wanting to leave is now viewed as a fascist racist bigot. Thankfully, I sent my postal vote in weeks before this happened because otherwise I would be scared to vote leave on Thursday.

I hear rumours that we have a state visit to Downing Street on Thursday of one Mr. Robert Mugabe. (JUST JOKING BEFORE ANYONE JUMPS ON ME)

I sent mine in 3 weeks ago and would still vote leave on Thursday despite what they call us. Why should we let them influence our vote? That's not democracy.

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Originally Posted by Osem

No need to worry about that - David Beckham reckons we're all stronger facing the world's problems together so he's voting in. I'm just wonder who his 'we' is? From what I've seen, all he and Posh have done whilst acquiring so much more than they could ever need is to separate themselves from everyone apart, of course, from the elite they choose to mix and compare their vast trappings of success with. I look forward to the day when they and the rest of the great and the good who preach one thing yet do another actually put their 'money' where their mouths are but I won't be holding my breath.

It's always amazed me that more people don't seem to question why so many high profile people who talk the talk on tackling global poverty etc. spend so much of their time acquiring ever larger shares of the world's shrinking resources...

And apart from his days at Manchester United, how much of their wealth goes back into the British economy? Just like the rest of them. Make their money and sod off to other countries to swell their economies.

[techguyone]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The silent majority will win, and that is the remain side.

As in the GE the Left were the most in your face, dominating social media and shouting down debate and any that dare disagree with them.

The silent Centre right and right did their talking on polling day.

again as in the Scottish referendum the Nats dominated social media, stifled debate and shouting down anyone that disagreed with them.

The unionists did their talking on polling day.

and I predict the same on Thursday. Forget the Polls

Come Friday the UK will still be in the EU.

You're most likely depressingly right, I've suspected this for a fair while now. I'll still vote Leave on the day though, it's all I can do.

[Ignitionnet]

I've been doing some more reading and watching.

I've gone from 60-40 in favour of Brexit to 50-50.

Had some knowledge bombs laid on me.

[Jimmy-J]

A lot of rain is predicted for Thursday... It might keep the young voters away.

[Osem]

Unless they're soluble in water, anyone put off voting on Thursday by rain shouldn't be allowed to vote.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by techguyone

You're most likely depressingly right, I've suspected this for a fair while now. I'll still vote Leave on the day though, it's all I can do.

Keep the faith Techguy you just never know. Some Remain voters might get complacent and not turn up.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy-J

A lot of rain is predicted for Thursday... It might keep the young voters away.

We can but hope

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Osem

No need to worry about that - David Beckham reckons we're all stronger facing the world's problems together so he's voting in. I'm just wonder who his 'we' is? From what I've seen, all he and Posh have done whilst acquiring so much more than they could ever need is to separate themselves from everyone apart, of course, from the elite they choose to mix and compare their vast trappings of success with. I look forward to the day when they and the rest of the great and the good who preach one thing yet do another actually put their 'money' where their mouths are but I won't be holding my breath.

It's always amazed me that more people don't seem to question why so many high profile people who talk the talk on tackling global poverty etc. spend so much of their time acquiring ever larger shares of the world's shrinking resources...

But this is the VERY IMPORTANT Mr Beckham, the one responsible for such gems as

My parents have been there for me, ever since I was about seven

Maths is totally done differently to what I was teached when I was at school

We ended the season on a high - apart from the last game which we lost

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Julian

But this is the VERY IMPORTANT Mr Beckham, the one responsible for such gems as

Ye Know! Can he say a sentence without saying ye know?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Julian

But this is the VERY IMPORTANT Mr Beckham, the one responsible for such gems as

lol. What really sticks in my throat is hugely wealthy people who're dedicated to getting richer and grabbing ever more of the trappings of success, lecturing the rest of us about tackling the world's problems, poverty, hunger , homelessness etc. I suspect they 'd always vote for the status quo which has served them so well and don't really like the prospect of significantly compromising their wealth or lifestyles in order to help the needy. They'd be quite happy seeing the rest of us paying the price however, well away, as we are, from all those luxury guarded/gated communities, public schools, private clubs, clinics etc.