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Old 15-06-2016, 21:11   #1
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Brexit and our government - a personal story

I have my political hat on today! For those you you who cannot make your mind up, perhaps a personal experience might help!!

In response to a comment on another posting and Nigel Farage's visit to Peterborough. This is how I feel about the remain campaign and our government. Vote LEAVE

I moved to Peterborough with my military spouse. I am aged over 50, I have never had an issue with gaining employment in any other area I have lived. I have worked within many highly respected institutions and I cannot find a job here. I was entitled to 6 months jobseekers allowance based on my NI contributions and when this ceased, it was simply a case of you are on your own! It was the most disgusting, demoralising process I have ever had to go through, I can understand why people are so frustrated. I am not entitled to any benefits, training/courses, job assistance, council tax relief etc. The reason for this is because my husband earns over the income threshold. I have paid my taxes for 35 years and have never been unemployed until I moved to Peterborough. My husband has to pay for my prescriptions, dental, job hunting expenses, etc. need I go on.

I see job adverts asking that candidates speak Polish - I thought we were in an English speaking country! Is it fair recruitment policy when 2 family members from an Easter European country secured jobs within the same 'training' organisation which JCP use to improve the skills of jobseekers? A high proportion of jobseekers who use these government funded services are EU citizens or should I say 'economic' migrants. My tax pounds are being used to improve employability skills for EU migrants yet I have no entitlement to these service myself whilst I am 'unofficially' unemployed. I am therefore not counted when the government display unemployment statistics! For my own self pride and as I have always been independent, I applied for a farm job simply to bring in an income (and use it as an opportunity to get fit) and my application was ignored. Was I over qualified? Was I too old? Did I not have any transferable skills I could use to undertake manual labour! It's not true that British born workers are unwilling to take certain jobs. I agree with another poster who is also correct in pointing out the benefits that come with taking on a low paid job. It is the influx of migrants in certain areas that keep salaries low. Do you seriously believe that there would be the same level of economic migrants willing to work and live in Britain if the government didn't offer tax credits, housing benefit, child allowance etc. etc.

I am not a politician, I am not an economist, I am not an academic, I am simply one of the many who is fed up of being tossed aside and sick to the back teeth of watching Britain deteriorate as a nation. The Remain Campaign are putting the fear of death into voters, they are absolutely despicable. I would suggest hooking politicians up to a lie detector and every time they told a porky, they would receive an electric shock. Oh, we can't do this as we need to consider their human rights! I detest this government, what happened to human rights of those who have committed suicide because they were declared fit for work and they obviously were not. Research it. What happened to the human rights of those who couldn't obtain treatment for mental health issues. Research it. What about ex-military who end up homeless? Research it! How are our pensioners being treated. Research it.

The country is at breaking point and it is only going to get worse. Yes, we need an Australian type visa system. Let us recruit internationally for the jobs that have a skill shortage. Let us recruit internationally, for example, to get the best academics and medical professionals. Don't continue to cut funding for nursing training. provide better training for British citizens so we are qualified to fill skill shortages. Make Britain a great place to live and work and people with skills wouldn't feel they had to leave to make a better life for themselves! It shouldn't be a free for all. Yes, we are reminded that a free Europe is beneficial as it opens up many opportunities for employment in many other countries within the EU. There is one little obstacle to this though, many countries in Europe do not use English as a first language so we are already at a disadvantage. In Britain, we have never been encouraged to be bi/multi-lingual so obviously there are more people coming to the UK from Europe to work than those leaving to work in Europe. The country is a shambles, it is a mess.

If you don't have an experience of 'real' Britain and you are living in your little bubble, don't take the time to comment. A great man (Elvis) once sung 'Walk a mile in my shoes...' Those of you who vote remain are obviously comfortable in your expensive Jimmy Choo's!! We need to lose this government and we need to take Britain back too. Well done tonight Nigel Farage! Peterborough is a difficult one due to the very high number of economic migrants. Britishness has left Peterborough!!

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Old 15-06-2016, 21:19   #2
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Tried to read but my eyes went funny too big a wall of text break it into paragraphs to make it easier to read and understand.
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Old 15-06-2016, 21:23   #3
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Tried to read but my eyes went funny too big a wall of text break it into paragraphs to make it easier to read and understand.
Is that better for you
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Yes. but I'll have to read the other half tomorrow.
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Yes. but I'll have to read the other half tomorrow.
.. glad you still have a sense of humour, I have lost mine! Might regain it on 23rd!
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Old 15-06-2016, 22:05   #6
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Re: Brexit and our government - a personal story

From what I can read of that Jobs and foreigners seem to be your only issues?

I personally don't want the UK Government and the Tories having free reign to do what they want! They could easily undo a lot of good things the EU has done for us in regards to environmental issues and rights for workers and a whole host of other things.

I know in Scotland it is being reported unemployment is down to its lowest for a while so foreign workers really can't be taking all the jobs here.

Thats why I am voting remain.
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Re: Brexit and our government - a personal story

Well said JackJone.

The biggest trouble with this forum, is that there are loads of Cameron and Osborne Lovers. That don't like people having a go.
It made me laugh when Puppet Osborne said that if we leave, the poorer will get poorer. And that he will have to rip to pieces the budgets, to close the gap in the economy.

Not being funny, but what has Cameron and Osborne been doing since they came to power. Been ripping the welfare state to bits, thousands of people made redundant due to cuts to benefits etc etc.

This Tory Government make me sick. And the good thing is that after the election, we will go to the country, for a new PM. As Cameron wont survive.

I want out, so we can take this country back. Close our Borders. And go to the Australian system.

To me IF you don't have a job, You cannot come in
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Old 15-06-2016, 23:01   #8
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Yes it is easier to read and although I'm voting out immigration is not high on my list of reasons even though many of my family are builders and have been hit very hard by foreign builders coming to the uk. For me immigration is a double edged sword as perception is different depending where you live, live in Dover and your perception will be markedly different to someone living in Kensington immigration is not a universal issue. I'm not saying it isn't important and we do need to address it but I would like leave to concentrate on the sovereignty issue as I think that strikes a chord with most people.

As to lousy government there is no good news whether we vote to leave or remain because it will be the same shower in the next election as the last and with labour having the political tactical skill of a lemming your getting at best a Tory coalition if not total Tory government out of the next general election. We have a lot of work ahead of us in the uk not least repairing the damage done by this bunch of cretins during the referendum.
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Leaving won't get rid of the Tories and closing our borders is really stupid.

Yeah lets be this little tiny Island all alone with a great big fence around it! No thanks!
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Stephen your smarter then to use that argument as very few leave supporters remotely fall into that category.
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What category?
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Well said JackJone.

The biggest trouble with this forum, is that there are loads of Cameron and Osborne Lovers. That don't like people having a go.
It made me laugh when Puppet Osborne said that if we leave, the poorer will get poorer. And that he will have to rip to pieces the budgets, to close the gap in the economy.

Not being funny, but what has Cameron and Osborne been doing since they came to power. Been ripping the welfare state to bits, thousands of people made redundant due to cuts to benefits etc etc.

This Tory Government make me sick. And the good thing is that after the election, we will go to the country, for a new PM. As Cameron wont survive.

I want out, so we can take this country back. Close our Borders. And go to the Australian system.

To me IF you don't have a job, You cannot come in
Arthur, I am not a "Cameron and Osborne Lover" and I am voting Remain.

Let's get one thing clear: if you think the current Tory administration is bad, just wait until you get the one replacing it courtesy of Boris and The Gover. The Labour party voters seems to voting Boris into power .. it's like Turkeys voting for Christmas ..

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Leaving won't get rid of the Tories and closing our borders is really stupid.

Yeah lets be this little tiny Island all alone with a great big fence around it! No thanks!
Brexit is not talking about closing our borders; they want to control them. Massive difference.

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No one from Brexit is saying that either. Brexit want cooperation between Sovereign Nations. Way different from your assertion.

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Oh I see we are playing stupid today ok few leave voters are in the category of fencing the uk off and retreating from the world but to be honest if you don't know that by now then your either not really interested and are using standard remain campaign rhetoric or your trolling for whatever reason either way stroll on.
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Leaving won't get rid of the Tories and closing our borders is really stupid.

Yeah lets be this little tiny Island all alone with a great big fence around it! No thanks!
I'm on Remain's side but Leaving might well be a short term way to remove the Tories for now. I can't see this government going on for 4 more years, they hate each other. Also although we don't vote for the PM I am unconvinced that changing leader just one year in, ahead of a major upheaval of the nation, would be acceptable to the public. Cameron was part of the deal with the electorate.
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