[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

I won't watch anything with john major the guy is just a prat now and a new jobs loss figure of 3 million wow at this rate day before the vote there won't be a job in the country that won't be lost if we vote leave. I don't agree with the exaggerations or embellishments whatever side may state them but the fact the British public are a few week's away from a very important vote and only get facts or as near to facts as we can by digging themselves (which I think everyone should do anyway) is a sad reflection on both camps and more reliable information should have been easily and freely available.

As I've said remain or leave this country has a huge political problem and it's going to have a far bigger impact short term then membership of the EU as I think more and more people in the UK have seen how pathetic our politicians have become and how unlikely they are to do what's truly in our or the nations interest.

[papa smurf]

HISTORIC TURNING POINT! Brexit takes 3% poll LEAD after huge week for the Leave campaign


http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...Leave-campaign

That's probably not the poll we were mentioning earlier. It's based on the one commissioned by the Guardian although the pollsters changed their weighting as they believed they had over-sampled people who are socially conservative: http://www2.politicalbetting.com/ind...ould-be-ahead/

So it's a lead for Remain under the new weighting and a lead for Leave under the old one.

There is apparently another poll tonight showing Leave ahead and given the hype around it then it's probably a big one.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

HISTORIC TURNING POINT! Brexit takes 3% poll LEAD after huge week for the Leave campaign


http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...Leave-campaign

Excellent news

[figgyburn]

Originally Posted by passingbat

David Rockefeller's 1991 Bilderberg
Quote...Ten Years Later

http://www.rense.com/general17/quote.htm

The above speech if correct is the reason I'm for leaving.The elites of Britain and the eu,and the goldman sachs of this world already see the rest of us as plebs who are here to enrich them and, to keep us in our place with the occasional goody at budget time like 5p off beer,hold the fuel duty escalator,a penny off income tax and we the plebs all cheer from the rooftops about how grateful we are to our political masters for looking after us so well.Meanwhile all the worthies of the house of lords troop in westminster and sign the book and get £300 per day "appearance" money then depart to pall mall for lunch.We the huddled masses indeed.

[Osem]

I don't see any sign that a significant number of the world's super rich and powerful are doing anything much about world poverty etc. With a few exceptions they're driven by wanting more money, more power etc. not relinquishing it to make life more tolerable for the needy masses. The EU isn't about making poor people better off, it's about enabling them to better be exploited by those in power with scraps being given to them to keep them happy and create the illusion of benevolent intent. Freedom of movement is key to doing that - a nice cheap mobile workforce ready to move around undercutting other people, keeping operating costs down and boosting profits for the rich/powerful and their politician mates.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Osem

I don't see any sign that a significant number of the world's super rich and powerful are doing anything much about world poverty etc. With a few exceptions they're driven by wanting more money, more power etc. not relinquishing it to make life more tolerable for the needy masses. The EU isn't about making poor people better off, it's about enabling them to better be exploited by those in power with scraps being given to them to keep them happy and create the illusion of benevolent intent. Freedom of movement is key to doing that - a nice cheap mobile workforce ready to move around undercutting other people, keeping operating costs down and boosting profits for the rich/powerful and their politician mates.

Exactly.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Excellent news

Indeed

[papa smurf]

'Cameron can't be trusted' PM blasted as SECRET £2bn EU bill REVEALED

The details of new bill for Britain have emerged with revelations that eurocrats have deliberately held back a review of the current EU Budget until after Britain's referendum on 23 June.

A report for the European Parliament has noted that there is already a backlog of almost £20 billion in unpaid bills which member states will have to pick up.

This means an extra £2 billion from the UK and there are fears that Britain will also be hauled into bailing out countries in the eurozone with both Greece and Italy understood to be on the brink of crisis.

The problems have prompted the leaders of Vote Leave - Mr Gove, Mr Johnson and respected Labour MP Gisella Stuart - to argue that the Prime Minister can no longer be trusted to protect Britain's interests in the EU.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-bill-REVEALED

Originally Posted by Osem

I don't see any sign that a significant number of the world's super rich and powerful are doing anything much about world poverty etc. With a few exceptions they're driven by wanting more money, more power etc. not relinquishing it to make life more tolerable for the needy masses. The EU isn't about making poor people better off, it's about enabling them to better be exploited by those in power with scraps being given to them to keep them happy and create the illusion of benevolent intent. Freedom of movement is key to doing that - a nice cheap mobile workforce ready to move around undercutting other people, keeping operating costs down and boosting profits for the rich/powerful and their politician mates.

I don't think it's fair to blame the EU for growing inequality. After the all the gap between rich and poor is happening Worldwide including America. Although at the same time absolute poverty is reducing.

This is the kind of thing that Corbyn has been going on about though. Think you might have to revisit your opinion of the man.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by passingbat

David Rockefeller's 1991 Bilderberg
Quote...Ten Years Later

http://www.rense.com/general17/quote.htm

If this is true then it's very sinister.

Impressive increase in numbers of those registering to vote. Especially younger people: https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...62634509463553



Looks like we'll see better turnout than General Elections at the very least.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

Think you might have to revisit your opinion of the man.

imo, with my background, the only good communist is a dead communist

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

Impressive increase in numbers of those registering to vote. Especially younger people: https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...62634509463553



Looks like we'll see better turnout than General Elections at the very least.

unless there's a new call of duty game released that day

Originally Posted by papa smurf

unless there's a new call of duty game released that day

Games aren't released on Thursdays.