[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

He's a lying two-faced Mod Edit - removed. At least Corbyn is honest. His heart isn't in his speeches and you can tell. What the betting he'll vote Leave in the privacy of the polling booth.

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My apologies. I just see red when I think of him and his lies.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Maybe they're just biding their time. Leaked reports showing BREXIT would be successful in the last week of the campaign would spike the remain camp's guns leaving immigration to secure the vote.

If she has tendered her resignation then she has nothing to lose by publishing it. However, if she's pro European, don't hold your breath.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

My apologies. I just see red when I think of him and his lies.

i feel your pain i want to harm the tv every time he's on it

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i see project waffle has begun

I see project conspiracy has begun..

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

This whole thing is getting a bit weird. A few pages ago people were talking of the New World Order.

Nothing weird about that. Research it for yourself.
I've had people say that "ever closer political union" is a conspiracy theory as well

[Gavin78]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Seems The Gover is the new Tony Blair: all spin and no substance .. what do experts know anyway ..

Cameron = sheep and dagger and yes what do experts know they make a lot of claims and how far has this got them.

I agree with Gove he puts his trust in the british public. Cameron just finds us all as a hindrances I wouldn't turn my back on him thats for sure

[Osem]

Some say that if we're used to the notion that the important and elite will require nice safe bunkers in which to sit out Armageddon whilst the rest of us burn, why is the thought that those same powerful people and their richest chums might quite like to engineer a situation in which the masses are increasingly controlled in order that they continue to enjoy their privileged existence? On a larger scale it's why rich/powerful people like to live in gated, secure estates isn't it? It's the reason they fight to get laws passed to make them more money, the reason they hide assets - to protect what they've got and hopefully acquire more because enough is never enough. With the world's poor and desperate increasingly on the move, is it unthinkable that the elite (whether as part of an organised group or as individuals) aren't getting just a tiny a bit scared that sooner or later their vast wealth and assets are going to come under direct threat. What better way to prevent the revolution than by stealth - a general eroding of rights etc. until the means are in place that, if/when required, the masses can be controlled. They'll not admit it, they'll even ensure that we're under the illusion we're better off when in fact we're not, but when things get messy they'll implement measures not to protect us but to protect themselves and what they've got. Some say the EU isn't about looking after the common man, it's a vehicle by which the elite can acquire and exercise more power. Of course they might really be just looking after us all because they're such nice people and it's not as though there's a million and one examples of rich, greedy, powerful people, companies and governments abusing their position...

Originally Posted by Osem

Some say that if we're used to the notion that the important and elite will require nice safe bunkers in which to sit out Armageddon whilst the rest of us burn, why is the thought that those same powerful people and their richest chums might quite like to engineer a situation in which the masses are increasingly controlled in order that they continue to enjoy their privileged existence?

Because this requires an unrealistic and extraordinary people for these people to control events in an unstable world. What precisely are you suggesting they are doing? There is a big difference between manipulating policy to their advantage and, say, being behind the Syrian refugee crisis.

[Mr K]

I think some are in danger of internal combustion and disappearing up their own paranoid backsides...

Chillout, Brussels is a lovely city, with lovely people, the EU isn't perfect but isn't the 4th Reich. The economic argument has been won, which is the main argument which really affects most peoples votes. Even Gove had no answer this week when asked to name any economists supporting Brexit.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Nothing weird about that. Research it for yourself.

I know quite a bit about New World Order conspiracy theories. Always been interested in them.

It is very weird. The NWO is pretty much the high order conspiracy. Once you believe in that then you have to take in most of the others because everything needs be retrofitted into that version of history. You can't have a version of history controlled by a secret elite which is disrupted by 5 guys hijacking planes so 9/11 has to become a conspiracy. You can't have a world so obviously shaped by the Cold War if that Cold War was caused by anything other than these elites orchestrating it behind the scenes. It usually goes back 100 years or so depending which crackpot theory precisely we're talking about.

[Gavin78]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I think some are in danger of internal combustion and disappearing up their own paranoid backsides...

Chillout, Brussels is a lovely city, with lovely people, the EU isn't perfect but isn't the 4th Reich. The economic argument has been won, which is the main argument which really affects most peoples votes. Even Gove had no answer this week when asked to name any economists supporting Brexit.

That's because he believes those that actually run their own business can do better and make it work versus these so call economists that always seem to get it wrong?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The way things are going, after the vote. We will be looking at an October Election, as DC wont survive.

And the knives are out for Corbyn, which is good. I voted for Burnham.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Osem

The hierarchy of the BBC is just another rich, out of touch, elite who have everything to gain from the UK being subsumed into some hideous Eurostate which exists purely to serve the few and the expense of the many. As much as they try to hide it in one way or another, their partiality doesn't surprise me one jot.

Rona Fairhead, chair of the BBC Trust, and likely to carry on in the new setup, attended the 2015 Bilderberg group meeting. Not surprising the BBC has the stance it has.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-forget-the-g7

Originally Posted by passingbat

Rona Fairhead, chair of the BBC Trust, and likely to carry on in the new setup, attended the 2015 Bilderberg group meeting. Not surprising the BBC has the stance it has.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-forget-the-g7

So the top secret conspiracy holds an annual meeting that is well-publicised and everyone knows who attends...

Cognitive dissonance, much?

[Osem]

These Bilderbergers must be very benevolent fellows though surely. I'm sure they have our interests at heart and are in no way looking after their own...

They don't need all their meetings to be held in secret if enough people aren't suspicious about what they're up to. Of course we wouldn't know about any secret meetings or agenda because they're ummm, secret. Corruption and deceit amongst the elite?? Now that is stretching reality...

Must be why Bill Gates gave over 3 billion dollars to charity, and why he is trying to eradicate malaria - pure selfishness...