[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
21-05-2016, 18:18
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Why do you and others keep posting links to articles where a subscription is required?
Seems stupid to me, instead of you putting your perspective on it you wish me to pay to see what your perspective is????
Don't spammers do something similar?
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Sorry, I viewed this OK and I don't have a subscription, it was not meant to be some sort of subterfuge. I should have tested the link after I posted it!
Now I am aware of the issue I would delete it if I could, but it won't let me!
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21-05-2016, 18:54
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Leave has one obstacle that I don't think they can overcome a media that seems very much in the remain camp and is biased that way allowing remain to dictate terms of debates and seizing every remain scare story and broadcasting\publishing it whilst most of what I have seen of leave has almost been parody coverage. This whole thing has been a badly organised and run shambles and on the remain side I think it's deliberate annoy enough people to the point they are sick of it and hope that apathy carries to the voting booth a very clinical and devious strategy but one completely in keeping with their campaign so far. Leave has a massive wall to climb just getting exposure but they have also handled things badly in their choice of representative.
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21-05-2016, 22:05
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Well the Media will be biased on this I mean an out of the EU is less news coverage for them at least without overcoming obstacles first
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22-05-2016, 07:43
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This is the sort of media coverage i like 
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In the most extensive survey of its kind, almost 16 per cent of Turkish adults said they would consider re-locating to the UK once their country becomes a full member of the EU.
According to the poll, which saw more than 2,600 adults interviewed across all 27 provinces of Turkey, most of those keen to come to Britain are either unemployed or students, raising the prospect of a migrant influx which would place an unprecedented strain on the UK’s struggling public services, including the NHS
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/672...-figures-Turks
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22-05-2016, 08:22
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Leave has one obstacle that I don't think they can overcome a media that seems very much in the remain camp and is biased that way allowing remain to dictate terms of debates and seizing every remain scare story and broadcasting\publishing it whilst most of what I have seen of leave has almost been parody coverage. This whole thing has been a badly organised and run shambles and on the remain side I think it's deliberate annoy enough people to the point they are sick of it and hope that apathy carries to the voting booth a very clinical and devious strategy but one completely in keeping with their campaign so far. Leave has a massive wall to climb just getting exposure but they have also handled things badly in their choice of representative.
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Leave has two of the largest papers in the country backing them. The Sun and the Daily Mail, in addition to The Telegraph and Express. They're also not above using fear themselves, see the aforementioned stuff on Turkey.
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22-05-2016, 08:33
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Leave did make one sensible choice, No Farage!
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22-05-2016, 09:12
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Leave did make one sensible choice, No Farage!
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the man who has campaigned to leave for years 
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22-05-2016, 09:51
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
If it wasn't for him, would there even be a referendum?
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22-05-2016, 10:23
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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If it wasn't for him, would there even be a referendum?
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i doubt it
but its hard to ignore 4 million voters but dodgy dave would if he could get away with it .
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22-05-2016, 13:31
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
In the balance of fear it's quite clear which side has employed the most. It seems to me that if being in the EU is so great, they ought to need to rely on fear tactics a lot less than the other side which are having to argue for a situation which doesn't exist - far more of an unknown. Maybe they won't concentrate on what's so great about being part of the EU because it's fundamentally flawed.
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Whether this survey is robust or not it almost irrelevant. It's perfectly obvious that a great many people from Turkey will want to migrate west as has been the case with every other relatively poor nation which has joined the club. The UK will be amongst the top destinations.
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22-05-2016, 13:37
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Whether this survey is robust or not it almost irrelevant. It's perfectly obvious that a great many people from Turkey will want to migrate west as has been the case with every other relatively poor nation which has joined the club. The UK will be amongst the top destinations.
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Yep and an awful lot of voters will believe it regardless of the accuracy
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22-05-2016, 13:48
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Yep and an awful lot of voters will believe it regardless of the accuracy
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Let's hope so because whether the survey was conducted fairly is irrelevant to the reality of what will happen. Sooner or later Turkey will join in yet another EU fudge and the flow of migrants will start, further depressing the wages of the ordinary man in the street and bringing with them the inevitable problems attendant with rapid population growth. Mind you, it'll all be OK because GDP will increase... 
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22-05-2016, 14:12
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Yep and an awful lot of voters will believe it regardless of the accuracy
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Not so much the Accuracy as the time they take to join. If it takes 10 years we will still be in if we don't leave now. There wouldn't be another vote on the EU for another 50 years and Turkey will be a full member long before that. So YES vote LEAVE now.
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22-05-2016, 15:03
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Leave has two of the largest papers in the country backing them. The Sun and the Daily Mail, in addition to The Telegraph and Express. They're also not above using fear themselves, see the aforementioned stuff on Turkey.
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How was the poll re Turkey 'fear'? 
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If it wasn't for him, would there even be a referendum?
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Nope. The man deserves a knighthood.
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22-05-2016, 16:02
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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How was the poll re Turkey 'fear'?
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Nope. The man deserves a knighthood.
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Fear of the truth... 
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