Climate Change - record World temp. rises in Feb.

[Mr K]

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...rature-records

April 2016 was the hottest April on record globally – and the seventh month in a row to have broken global temperature records.

Time to be worried, or too late to be worried ??

[techguyone]

It wasn't very bloody warm where I live :/

Climate change has become a business with billions to be spent and made and as such can not be taken on faith. Is our climate changing I don't know anyone that would say it isn't but is it down to us pesky humans we cannot say to any degree of certainty.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by techguyone

It wasn't very bloody warm where I live :/

Likewise, snowed in last week of April.

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Likewise, snowed in last week of April.

I can remember in about 1962-63 travelling from Maidenhead to Ascot in May time and there was several inches of snow in the fields.

[Ramrod]

2016 Annual GWPF Lecture

And here is the maddest thing of all. Current policy is not even achieving decarbonisation. Whatever your views on the urgency of reducing emissions, the policy of subsidizing renewable energy is not achieving it.

Switching to biodiesel or ethanol actually increases emissions. So does burning wood in power stations. So does solar power in cloudy Germany. So do wind farms because they prevent the replacement of coal by gas or nuclear.

In 2012 Bjorn Lomborg calculated that 20 years of climate policy had reduced global emissions by less than 1 percent. During that time the world had spent more than a trillion dollars to subsidise wind and solar power, yet between them they had still not achieved 1% of world energy provision. In this country, they have just passed 2%.

In Germany, a 20% increase in renewables between 1999 and 2014 has resulted in no change in emissions at all.

Testifying to Congress in 2014, Professor Judith Curry, chair of Earth Sciences at Georgia Tech University said:

“Motivated by the precautionary principle to avoid dangerous anthropogenic climate change, attempts to modify the climate through reducing CO2 emissions may turn out to be futile.”

Why do I think the risk from global warming is being exaggerated? For four principal reasons.

1. All environmental predictions of doom always are;
2. the models have been consistently wrong for more than 30 years;
3. the best evidence indicates that climate sensitivity is relatively low;
4. the climate science establishment has a vested interest in alarm.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

2016 Annual GWPF Lecture

Very good - the Global Warming Policy Forum, who have refused to comply with FOI requests on who is funding them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global...ritable_status

Meanwhile the planet continues to warm and extreme weather events become more frequent.

Some people will never be convinced until it hurts their own profits/house/family, which it will eventually.

I'm going to Venice next week, i'll be taking my wellies

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I'm going to Venice next week, i'll be taking my wellies

As am I. I'll wear my 'Remoaner' t-shirt so if you come across me you'll recognise me.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Is our climate changing I don't know anyone that would say it isn't but is it down to us pesky humans we cannot say to any degree of certainty.

Mmmm yeah we really can with a pretty high degree of certainty; recent studies rate it at >99.9% that we're having an impact, with 95% certainty that we're not just influencing it but are the largest influence.

http://www.livescience.com/40006-uni...fographic.html
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/1.585403
http://theconversation.com/99-999-ce...ew-study-29911

[Ramrod]

It was presented to the Royal Society. That should give it a little extra weight.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

It was presented to the Royal Society. That should give it a little extra weight.

It was presented at the Royal Society not necessarily to them. I am not sure but it's not clear if this was a lecture presented to them at their invitation or if they simply booked a lecture hall. Also I am not sure this lecture actually has an accompanying paper they've submitted for peer review or if it's just a talk.

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Never mind. Looked it up. There was no Royal Society event, lecture or scientific meeting for the 17th October: https://royalsociety.org/science-events-and-lectures/

[Mr K]

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...droidApp_Email

Forget Trump, Brexit, murdered Russians, immigration etc. This is what we should be really be worried about. It is the major threat. The time seems to have passed when we could have done anything about it. Maybe that's why we're ignoring it. Silly us.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...droidApp_Email

Forget Trump, Brexit, murdered Russians, immigration etc. This is what we should be really be worried about. It is the major threat. The time seems to have passed when we could have done anything about it. Maybe that's why we're ignoring it. Silly us.

its too late -glad i own a boat

Originally Posted by Mr K

Very good - the Global Warming Policy Forum, who have refused to comply with FOI requests on who is funding them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global...ritable_status

Meanwhile the planet continues to warm and extreme weather events become more frequent.

Some people will never be convinced until it hurts their own profits/house/family, which it will eventually.

I'm going to Venice next week, i'll be taking my wellies

Repeat after me until you understand this - weather DOES NOT equal climate.

Weather is the next few days, climate the next few hundred years. sigh.

It ias already colder in North America, than at anytime during the whole of last winter

Or is that just a bit of cold weather and nothing to do with climate?

You need to read more - start here

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

its too late -glad i own a boat

You better check it this morning.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

its too late -glad i own a boat

Batten down the hatches. Barbara's on her way.

The Met Office said there were signs that winds and wet weather predicted to sweep in from the Atlantic at the weekend could be strong enough to become the second named storm of the season.

Forecasters are tracking the weather system a month after Storm Angus brought 80mph winds, heavy rain and flooding. Barbara is next on the list of storm names allocated by the Met Office.