[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
09-05-2016, 13:08
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
I'm sick of all the scaremongering and the actual lack of any real facts from BOTH sides.
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The sooner its bloody all over the better in my opinion. 
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09-05-2016, 16:30
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
i'm a bit old for war but i fancy having a go aS an ARP warden-i could be chief doodle bug spotter
"they don't like it up em"
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BREXIT CONTAGION: Now nearly HALF of Europeans want their own EU referendum
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...apse-contagion
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09-05-2016, 16:47
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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BREXIT CONTAGION: Now nearly HALF of Europeans want their own EU referendum
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My French friends certainly do, the Euro was the last straw for many, the "invasion" from the Middle East" was for most.
Camoron's booklet arrived today. Returned without reading.
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09-05-2016, 17:59
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
I'm sick of all the scaremongering and the actual lack of any real facts from BOTH sides.
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Why?
Both campaigns aim to secure your vote and will go about that in the way they see fit. You have no right to the impartial delivery of facts from either side. If you want them, you will have to go looking.
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New poll-of-polls has the race tied:
http://order-order.com/2016/05/09/eu...neck-and-neck/
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09-05-2016, 18:29
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09-05-2016, 18:56
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It'd be ironic if we do stay in and then find a load of other nations pull out... 
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09-05-2016, 19:00
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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It'd be ironic if we do stay in and then find a load of other nations pull out... |
In or out I think the EU will implode very shortly neatly solving the issue.
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09-05-2016, 19:01
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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It'd be ironic if we do stay in and then find a load of other nations pull out... |
oh the consequence of not pulling out sooner 
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09-05-2016, 19:12
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oh the consequence of not pulling out sooner |
A few crises throughout history could've been averted by pulling out at the right time.
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09-05-2016, 23:21
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A few crises throughout history could've been averted by pulling out at the right time.
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Yes Hitler wouldn't have been born if his father had! 
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09-05-2016, 23:29
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Why?
Both campaigns aim to secure your vote and will go about that in the way they see fit. You have no right to the impartial delivery of facts from either side. If you want them, you will have to go looking.
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New poll-of-polls has the race tied:
http://order-order.com/2016/05/09/eu...neck-and-neck/
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Well perhaps you could point me in the right direction...seeing as I cannot rely on the media to give any facts and instead churn out all the spin from both sides and everyone on the internet re-tweets,reposts all this spin and lies.. 
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Well perhaps you could point me in the right direction...seeing as I cannot rely on the media to give any facts and instead churn out all the spin from both sides and everyone on the internet re-tweets,reposts all this spin and lies.. |
Both sides feel they are telling us facts from their perspective ,it's up to you to decide what you think are facts or not
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10-05-2016, 07:22
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Tory rift grows as Iain Duncan Smith claims Germany vetoed EU reforms
In an interview with the Sun published on Tuesday, Duncan Smith accuses Cameron of having allowed Germany to “veto” key parts of his EU reform renegotiation. Duncan Smith said Berlin exercised the “ultimate power” over what changes the prime minister sought from Brussels and was allowed to block the idea of a cap on foreign workers coming to the EU.
He said a key demand was ditched, at the behest of Berlin, from the draft of a speech by Cameron just hours before it was due to be delivered. “It’s like they were sitting in a room, even when they were not there. There was a spare chair for them – called the German chair. They have had a de facto veto over everything,” he told the newspaper.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...er-immigration
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10-05-2016, 07:25
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Those seeking unquestionable 'facts' and 'numbers' to support their decision are going to have a long wait. I'm basing mine on my experience of the last few decades of our membership and what we see unfolding before our eyes. If you want more of the same vote for it, it you don't, don't.
As for Germany's influence over the EU, some folks still doubt it but IMHO it's patently obvious who's actually running the show in Europe and, if they happen to conflict with Germany's, the UK's interests will always be kicked into the long grass if we stay in. If Merkel wants to have her cake and eat it, the least we can do is stop subsidising it.
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10-05-2016, 08:34
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
Seems the leave campaign is re-focusing on Daves "reformed" EU which is nothing of the sort. We all know who the puppet master is.
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