Unstoppable migration?

[figgyburn]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yes you're probably right. These guys were only spotted due to the light from their mobile phone apparently.

I have to laugh.Most of these people"fleeing"seem to lose their passports with alarming frequency but seem to hang on to their mobile phones in a vice like grip.Should be the other way about methinks.

[Kymmy]

The popes in Lesbos visiting migrant camps... I wonder how many of them he's allowing residency in Vatican City?

For that matter how many will try to sneek on board his plane

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

The popes in Lesbos visiting migrant camps... I wonder how many of them he's allowing residency in Vatican City?

For that matter how many will try to sneek on board his plane

from your mouth to his ears
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...isis-in-europe

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

The popes in Lesbos visiting migrant camps... I wonder how many of them he's allowing residency in Vatican City?

For that matter how many will try to sneek on board his plane

Well as we all know, words are cheap eh?

It'll be interesting to see who, amongst the great and the good who've offered direct support for refugees/migrants, will actually deliver and how long their hospitality will last...

[papa smurf]

Pope Francis has taken 12 Syrian migrants back with him to the Vatican after visiting a camp on the Greek island of Lesbos.
The three families boarded the papal jet as the pontiff departed following his trip.
The Vatican said in a statement that Francis wanted to "make a gesture of welcome'' to the refugees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36063300

[Kymmy]

Vatican must be short of cleaners

[deadite66]

Bet some of the priests are hoping for some new young boys.

[Osem]

Violent clashes erupted between migrants and a "vigilante group" near a Paris metro station on Friday night.

Video filmed from an apartment in Boulevard de la Vilette shows hundreds of men brawling with metal poles and wooden planks beneath Stalingrad Metro station.

It is believed the fight started when a group of men threw objects at the migrants, who are sleeping rough by the station.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...es-beneath-pa/

Don't suppose it'll happen here...

[Taf]

The police had done "practically nothing" to stop petty theft, break-ins, muggings and sexual offences. So locals got together to try to drive the illegals from their area. The police now say they are "very active" to prevent the illegals gathering and locating themselves in "restricted areas" around Paris.

But locals and commuters in the area all spoke to reporters stating that the police seem to be letting the situation get out of control. "They (the police) seem to want to contain the illegals in specific areas to prevent them spreading city wide".

The mayor said that "shanty towns" would be razed and cleared before they could become "the jungle of Paris". But he reported that clashes are occurring between Eastern Europeans and "youths from Africa and the Middle East" sleeping rough in the capital.

"Territories are being protected by factions that do not see eye-to-eye, much as with the gangs of Los Angeles. Their borders are defended and attacked daily, but are so fluid that the authorities do not know where the flashpoints will occur".

- Europe 1 radio.

[Osem]

I don't suppose the French authorities want too many migrants dossing down in and making a mess of the nicer parts of Paris where the rich and influential live. As always it'll be the poorer areas and less affluent people who suffer the burden.

[Osem]

Italy threatened by national crisis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36080216

Italians feel under siege. There is talk here of a looming national crisis.

"Of course we are worried," says Italy's Finance Minister Pier Carlo Padoan.

"We are worried first of all from a humanitarian point of view, from a security point of view, and then of course from a financial point of view. The cost of migration has been substantial."

Mr Padoan complains that the EU left Italy alone with its migration crisis for too long.

He points out that Italy was faced with mass arrivals long before Greece and that the EU refused to acknowledge until recently that Italy's coastal borders were in fact Europe's common southern flank.

Now he is calling for a common EU migration strategy and a common EU migration fund to help front-line countries like Italy.

In the meantime he wants more flexibility in eurozone financial rules, to compensate for the losses Italy has suffered due to mass migration.

I thought mass uncontrolled migration could only be a good thing, a net benefit, something to be embraced, something to be proud of.

So with another 300,000 heading their way, Italy's existing poor/unemployed will have to compete with yet more of the world's needy whilst the Eurocrats carry on deluding themselves that they have a plan for dealing with this growing nightmare.

The eurozone's third-largest economy is in the doldrums, in its third year of recession. Italy's public debt measured against GDP is the biggest in the eurozone after Greece.

Italians feel that the EU owes them...


...Italy has no more money, no more space, no more facilities to help these people, he insists.

Like Greece, Italy is a gatekeeper to Europe along its southern shoreline.

Like Greece, Italy in the past waved migrants onwards and northwards towards richer neighbours.

But with northern borders now firmly shut, migrants still streaming in and difficulties deporting even failed asylum seekers back home, Italy says it is not waving, but drowning.

Would this migrant crisis be happening on this scale were it not for the EU?

[ntluser]

The problem for all the countries in the EU is that with sudden immigration on this scale no nation has the resources to absorb all the new immigrants.

In the UK with problems of housing, schools and the NHS we cannot even cater for the people already here never mind any new people from abroad. And that's with us supposedly having a strong economy. No doubt there will be similar problems in the other EU countries, particularly in those where the economy is not so strong!!

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by ntluser

The problem for all the countries in the EU is that with sudden immigration on this scale no nation has the resources to absorb all the new immigrants.

In the UK with problems of housing, schools and the NHS we cannot even cater for the people already here never mind any new people from abroad. And that's with us supposedly having a strong economy. No doubt there will be similar problems in the other EU countries, particularly in those where the economy is not so strong!!

Actually the Eastern European countries DO have the spare housing etc. After all, so many have come over here leaving behind empty houses.

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Actually the Eastern European countries DO have the spare housing etc. After all, so many have come over here leaving behind empty houses.

Unfortunately not many people want to go there, probably because there are no jobs or the benefits are poor.

[Osem]

The E. European nations aren't going to want to take these people. They've already shown that and we already know where most of the migrants want to go. There's a huge problem brewing when someone finally has to start making the tough decisions about where Merkel's migrants are sent and how to ensure they remain there. Never mind eh. The EU's not broken is it...