Tax havens exposed in huge law firm leak - Page 17

TheDaddy · 12-04-2016, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's obvious Cameron has, at least with what's been revealed so far, done nothing wrong. The only reason people are having a go is either because they don't understand that offshore doesn't mean 'tax evasion', they simply don't like Cameron and this is a chance to have a go, a small minority who genuinely think any tax avoidance is immoral and Tory MPs who probably have done these things themselves but see taking down Cameron as an advantage for Brexit.

What's worse is people like Jimmy Carr mocking this as Cameron being caught out but the difference is that Carr didn't pay a bunch of tax whereas it seems Cameron has paid every bit of tax that the law intends. Again though, people don't understand that setting up a company to avoid tax which loans to back to you is not the same as investing in offshore companies but then paying tax when you take the money out. Like pretty much most pension funds.

Most people understand only to well what he was up to, attempting to mislead them.

Ignitionnet · 12-04-2016, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Hugh

People keep saying "the 1%", when they mean "the 0.1%*".

To be in the 1%, you need to earn just under £77k per year -which isn't bad, but not in the "super-rich" arena.

Do I have to learn a secret handshake? Do I get a t-shirt or, at least, a badge? Lanyard?

**Hugh** · 12-04-2016, 19:15

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Most people understand only to well what he was up to, attempting to mislead them.

What did he mislead them on?

Did he do anything illegal?

Did he not pay all the appropriate tax?

Ignitionnet · 12-04-2016, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's obvious Cameron has, at least with what's been revealed so far, done nothing wrong. The only reason people are having a go is either because they don't understand that offshore doesn't mean 'tax evasion', they simply don't like Cameron and this is a chance to have a go, a small minority who genuinely think any tax avoidance is immoral and Tory MPs who probably have done these things themselves but see taking down Cameron as an advantage for Brexit.

I think people need to start hating more on the system and less on the Prime Minister. I'm no fan of his but it's abundantly clear that people across the political spectrum have done exactly what his family have, right across to Tony Benn.

IHT is a mess. Get rid of it and use a Land Value Tax instead.

**Hugh** · 12-04-2016, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Do I have to learn a secret handshake? Do I get a t-shirt or, at least, a badge? Lanyard?

It's a tattoo on the perineum, I believe....

TheDaddy · 12-04-2016, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh

What did he mislead them on?

Did he do anything illegal?

Did he not pay all the appropriate tax?

When he failed to answer a simple question straightforwardly, within 5 days

Osem · 12-04-2016, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's obvious Cameron has, at least with what's been revealed so far, done nothing wrong. The only reason people are having a go is either because they don't understand that offshore doesn't mean 'tax evasion', they simply don't like Cameron and this is a chance to have a go, a small minority who genuinely think any tax avoidance is immoral and Tory MPs who probably have done these things themselves but see taking down Cameron as an advantage for Brexit.

What's worse is people like Jimmy Carr mocking this as Cameron being caught out but the difference is that Carr didn't pay a bunch of tax whereas it seems Cameron has paid every bit of tax that the law intends. Again though, people don't understand that setting up a company to avoid tax which loans to back to you is not the same as investing in offshore companies but then paying tax when you take the money out. Like pretty much most pension funds.

Well hypocrisy has always been the trendy lefty stock in trade and there's plenty of idiots out there who buy into it because it's what they want to hear and doesn't require any effort analysing facts.

**Maggy** · 13-04-2016, 08:23

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36032325

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Police in Panama have raided the headquarters of the law firm at the centre of a massive data leak.
Prosecutors said the operation had been carried out at the offices of Mossack Fonseca in Panama City "without incident or interference".

Ignitionnet · 13-04-2016, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Hugh

It's a tattoo on the perineum, I believe....

Oh

Have to get the existing one removed.

Kursk · 13-04-2016, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh

It's a tattoo on the perineum, I believe....

Ever so close to the a-hole. Appropriate

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Mr K · 15-04-2016, 09:29

Labour have taken the lead in the polls. Probably down to Cameron being exposed as a hypocrite on tax and another shambolic budget from Osborne. Maybe Jeremy is looking less toxic by the day.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9668

denphone · 15-04-2016, 10:20

A week is a long time in politics so one can never predict what the future holds for both parties in the coming weeks , months and years.

**Hugh** · 15-04-2016, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Labour have taken the lead in the polls. Probably down to Cameron being exposed as a hypocrite on tax and another shambolic budget from Osborne. Maybe Jeremy is looking less toxic by the day.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9668

Some interesting commentary.

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Looking at some more general questions on the Tory leadership David Cameron’s ratings have declined there too.

In December his lead over Jeremy Corbyn as best Prime Minister was twenty-six points, now it is only seven points (almost all due to Cameron’s rating falling, rather than Corbyn’s increasing) – 32% Cameron (down 17), 25% Corbyn (up 2).

As with the voting intention figures, I would be cautious about jumping to conclusions about the reasons for the drop in Cameron’s ratings – while the questions were asked just after the row over his investments, in the same people people said by 45% to 35% that Cameron hadn’t actually done anything wrong.

It is just as likely to be the impact from the budget, from the general running of the government or from Cameron losing the support and loyalty of Conservative voters who are backing leave. It will be interesting to see to what degree the ratings of the Conservative party and David Cameron himself recover once the referendum is finally over and they can get on with something else (assuming, of course, that Cameron’s leadership survives the aftermath)

**Chris** · 17-04-2016, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Labour have taken the lead in the polls. Probably down to Cameron being exposed as a hypocrite on tax and another shambolic budget from Osborne. Maybe Jeremy is looking less toxic by the day.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9668

No less than you'd expect, almost a year into the term.

Labourites should, however, be very concerned at how long it has taken, and how slender is the lead.

Even miliband was doing better at this point, and we all know how that ended up.

Osem · 17-04-2016, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Chris

No less than you'd expect, almost a year into the term.

Labourites should, however, be very concerned at how long it has taken, and how slender is the lead.

Even miliband was doing better at this point, and we all know how that ended up.

Mili... who?

You know something's seriously wrong when a guy like Corbyn is the best Labour gas to offer.