Woman suffered miscarriage on A&E waiting room floor as she waited 4 hours to see Dr

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

It might have saved the poor woman some dignity..and she should have been dealt with in a far more empathetic manner.



Imagine that happening to your wife...

But it wouldn't have made a difference to the outcome

That is outrageous, where's the compassion our nurses used to be famous for, I realise people are busy and they're understaffed but surely someone there could've spared a couple of minutes to spend with that poor lady

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

That is outrageous, where's the compassion our nurses used to be famous for, I realise people are busy and they're understaffed but surely someone there could've spared a couple of minutes to spend with that poor lady

I think that is all Maggy was asking for.

[Osem]

When I was in A&E on successive nights before my surgery I was in absolute agony and at one point collapsed onto the floor by reception writhing in pain. At one point I recall one of the staff saying something like 'you can't lie there sir'... It was about 10 mins. before someone eventually helped me onto a wheelchair and took me off to see the medics. Numerous staff saw me lying there but nobody seemed to want to help.

I was later admitted and spent about a week in hospital being pumped full of antibiotics and praying I wouldn't develop severe pancreatitis.

The reality is that the staff in these places are exposed to all sorts of things and I feel inevitably lose some of their empathy at times, especially at the sharp end in places like A&E where they have to deal with all sorts of people (some of whom are unpleasant in the extreme) in all sorts of mental and physical states. I don't condone uncaring behaviour but do appreciate why it sometimes happens.

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@ Multiskilled - in my defence at the time I posted that I had no way of knowing what he'd posted as he's on my ignore list. IIRC his post also had one of the usual ambiguous anti Tory/Boris rant titles which needs to be amended by a mod. in order to make any sense and bear some relation to the topic. My intention was not to belittle the woman's suffering.

[multiskilled]

Why reply to a post of someone on your ignore list? especially if you don't even know what he said.Your always telling Arthur to check his facts before posting.

I just get annoyed at the way the same people seem to get pleasure at tearing Arthur's posts apart even more so when they then admit to not even have read them.

This forum would be a lot poorer without him and I'm surprised he is still around considering the amount of flack he gets off certain members,and moderators seeming to turn a blind eye to it.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by multiskilled

Why reply to a post of someone on your ignore list? especially if you don't even know what he said.Your always telling Arthur to check his facts before posting.

I just get annoyed at the way the same people seem to get pleasure at tearing Arthur's posts apart even more so when they then admit to not even have read them.

This forum would be a lot poorer without him and I'm surprised he is still around considering the amount of flack he gets off certain members,and moderators seeming to turn a blind eye to it.

I wasn't replying to his post. I was making a point which for 99% of his input here is accurate. Sorry you don't like but I guess that's just tough. I don't see how this forum would be worse without a string of ambiguously titled, ill informed, self contradictory rants but then maybe I expect a bit more than you do. Anyway that's my last comment on the subject and if you have a complaint about moderation I suggest you take it up with them not me. Best of luck.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by multiskilled

Why reply to a post of someone on your ignore list? especially if you don't even know what he said.Your always telling Arthur to check his facts before posting.

I just get annoyed at the way the same people seem to get pleasure at tearing Arthur's posts apart even more so when they then admit to not even have read them.

This forum would be a lot poorer without him and I'm surprised he is still around considering the amount of flack he gets off certain members,and moderators seeming to turn a blind eye to it.

Thanks for saying this. Some of the responses to Arthurs posts are out of order and you are right, the mods do turn a blind eye to this. Good job Arthur has a thick skin ...

As has been previously stated, if any member has an issue with Moderation, or believe that another member has been treated unfairly, please contact one of the Site Admins with your complaint for discussion and review.

[multiskilled]

Originally Posted by Osem

I wasn't replying to his post. I was making a point which for 99% of his input here is accurate. Sorry you don't like but I guess that's just tough. I don't see how this forum would be worse without a string of ambiguously titled, ill informed, self contradictory rants but then maybe I expect a bit more than you do. Anyway that's my last comment on the subject and if you have a complaint about moderation I suggest you take it up with them not me. Best of luck.

But he's on your ignore list or does the point of this function escape you? By your own admission your just as guilty of reacting to the HEADLINE but not reading the article, something people are always telling Arthur to do with his "ill informed self contradictory rants"

Sorry you don't like being challenged about your behaviour to other members but I guess that just tough.

As for the moderators I'm sure they have read what I've written and will be in touch shortly if they feel the need.

We won't contact you to see if you have a complaint - you have to make one...

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

We won't contact you to see if you have a complaint - you have to make one...

I have a complaint - it's a bit sore and itchy at times, I'll send you a picture if you like.

Ok children, enough now, back to the topic please.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

~nonsense~ But l feel that if a woman goes into a Unit/A/E with maternity problems. Then it should take priority over all the patients. We are talking about a 'new life' in danger. ~further nonsense~

Utter emotional nonsense

an unborn child has no greater right to treatment than to someone suffering a stroke or a child seriously injured in an rtc or to person who is critically injured in a workplace accident

The only logical way to prioritise treatment is to base it on who has the greater chance of survival and best quality of life

And before anyone says it if it was my fiancée of course I'd be screaming blue murder but it's not so I can look at the situation with rational,logic and most importantly without emotion

[heero_yuy]

That's the job of the triage nurse, assignment of priorities: Three groups, those who if not treated will survive anyway, those who even if treated will die and those who if treated will save their lives.

Third group always has priority when resources are streached.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Its too graphic to mention on here. But l feel that if a woman goes into a Unit/A/E with maternity problems. Then it should take priority over all the patients. We are talking about a 'new life' in danger.
And the sooner she receives medical help the better.

It's harsh of me to say this, but why should a foetus have any more right to life than, say, someone in their early 20s who is in the throws of a heart attack (this happens more often than you might think), or a small child who is seriously injured? Who are you to say that any life should take priority over any other?