[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU - Page 52

tweedle · 05-03-2016, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Latest polling has shown a movement towards Remain. http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

I expect this movement to continue as polling day gets closer and the risks of exit are drummed home.

Drummed home? A very left terminology. Do as we say or the world will end.

Actually the world carrys on, but the disabled and needy in the UK will potentially have an extra £10billion is support.

Yes people if we leave Europe our benefits budget could have an extra £10 billion a year. After all the budget cuts saves £12 billion but Europe cost us £82 Billion.

Ignitionnet · 06-03-2016, 18:01

Our local paper is kindly airing views on both sides of this debate.

The MP Hilary Benn's comments.

My rebuttal.

Ramrod · 06-03-2016, 18:48

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

My rebuttal.

Thats you? Well done!

Ignitionnet · 06-03-2016, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Thats you? Well done!

I thank you.

Made a nice change from writing about broadband.

Sirius · 07-03-2016, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Our local paper is kindly airing views on both sides of this debate.

The MP Hilary Benn's comments.

My rebuttal.

Excellent rebuttal

pip08456 · 07-03-2016, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Our local paper is kindly airing views on both sides of this debate.

The MP Hilary Benn's comments.

My rebuttal.

Well thought out and written.

Well done Carl.

Osem · 08-03-2016, 08:31

Quite understandably the Turks are using this crisis to their advantage and in just the same way that migrants have effectively 'forced their way into the EU, so have the Turks, almost certainly. They're making it clear that they want in and there'll be a serious price to pay if they don't get their way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35750968

I don't suppose the single state obsessed, latter day Euro-empire builders will care that their new enlarged state includes a decent sized chunk of Asia but if Israel and Australia can be in the Eurovision song contest, who cares eh?... Anyway, it'll only mean millions more culturally different, low skilled workers more than willing to further undercut wages elsewhere in the EU so who cares?...

heero_yuy · 08-03-2016, 08:47

I wonder if our Eastern Europeans will kick off when a shedload of Turks arrive to do their jobs for less money?

Osem · 08-03-2016, 08:58

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I wonder if our Eastern Europeans will kick off when a shedload of Turks arrive to do their jobs for less money?

I imagine they will but it will of course be too late by then - a fait accompli you might say. Either they'll get on with it or there'll be big trouble but don't worry because people like Donald Tusk know best clearly and you can bet their pay and perks won't be what suffers...

jonbxx · 08-03-2016, 09:11

Turkey isn't going to be joining the EU any time soon. Hungary has already suggested it will veto and I would be very surprised if Greece doesn't veto as well (though this time of course, Greece has a big interest in keeping Turkey on side) Memories in that part of Europe are very long

Osem · 08-03-2016, 09:34

Tell that to the Turks and the Germans. Pressure will be applied to dissenting nations and the Turks have the EU over a barrel. They're already in talks about speeding up Turkey's entry, not whether to consider the possibility of entry. The lifting of visa restrictions is another step along a well worn path towards entry.

Pierre · 08-03-2016, 14:14

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Turkey isn't going to be joining the EU any time soon.

Unless they do a deal with the EU to take back all the migrants. Ohh look!

Big Brian · 11-03-2016, 14:07

Greetings all.

I've been scouring the net for a decent forum on the EU referendum but they all seem to be attached to sites I have no interest in or to localised areas. There isn't one for my area.

In 1975 I voted against the then Common Market knowing it would lead to more than that and it would appear those of us who took that stand were right. The EU is now a Political Organisation, not what the voters voted for in 1975. In the past 4 decades I've seen nothing that will make me change my mind and will be voting OUT on June 23rd.

Mr K · 11-03-2016, 14:45

Hello Big Brian,

you'll find plenty that agree with you here, however I'm not one of them !

The EU isn't perfect, but the grass can always seem greener elsewhere. Stephen Hawking doesn't think leaving is a good idea either. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35772714

welcome anyway !

Big Brian · 11-03-2016, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Hello Big Brian,

you'll find plenty that agree with you here, however I'm not one of them !

The EU isn't perfect, but the grass can always seem greener elsewhere. Stephen Hawking doesn't think leaving is a good idea either. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35772714

welcome anyway !

Then again he is looking at from a selfish point of view. Why should it not be good for science? When it's all said and done the UK loses money by being in the EU anyway to the tune of at least £8 bn per year.

Also they make a lot of our laws we have no say in but have to abide by.

They tell us we have to take their Citizens but we don't always have the room for them. We'd be in a better position to help the Syrian refugees outside the EU because we can cut back on the amount of EU Citizens we allow in.

Our NHS would benefit greatly from the money we save by not being in the EU.

Our economy is the 5th largest and can cope with trading with the emerging economies as well as the US and the EU.

It's probably the unknown people are afraid of but who said life was easy? Sure there may be some hiccups but they are not going to be as bad as Cameron said yesterday. One of the big 4 banks, according to someone I was talking to the other day online, said his boss doesn't think things will be that bad and they have no plans to relocate in the event of a Brexit.

Thanks for the Welcome