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Old 11-02-2016, 16:12   #466
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)

Why as virgin media not got the following channels when the main channel is already on it.
Sky 1+ 1
Pick +1
Disney junior + 1
Nick Jr +1
Tiny pop +1
Bet + 1
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Travel channel +1

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Old 11-02-2016, 17:45   #467
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Why as virgin media not got the following channels when the main channel is already on it.
Sky 1+ 1
Pick +1
Disney junior + 1
Nick Jr +1
Tiny pop +1
Bet + 1
Sony TV + 1
5 Star + 1
E! +1
C.I. + 1
Food network +1
Travel channel +1

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Would you really want to pay more for those channels?
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Old 11-02-2016, 22:41   #468
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3 more things than the current TiVo or the bolt?

1 - Faster
2 - 4k
3 - More tuners
1 - 4TB drive with cloud storage / The ability to store on Nas home storage system
2 - 4K
3 - 12 Tuners!
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Old 12-02-2016, 07:46   #469
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4TB drive with cloud storage
If you had cloud storage, you wouldn't need a hard drive at all.
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Old 12-02-2016, 08:39   #470
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)

What I mean if virgin media should have made a deal with the owners of the stations to include the plus one channels if we get the main channel. I know the plus one channels can be very useful if you got a lot of programmes to watch or record.
That's why I think the plus one channels should be include with the main station. Not. separated on it own.
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:00   #471
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If you had cloud storage, you wouldn't need a hard drive at all.
The problem with cloud storage over local storage is whether any kind of Expiration dates are implemented.
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:53   #472
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1 - 4TB drive with cloud storage / The ability to store on Nas home storage system
2 - 4K
3 - 12 Tuners!
1 - no.
2 - no comment.
3 - nope.
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Old 12-02-2016, 09:57   #473
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The problem with cloud storage over local storage is whether any kind of Expiration dates are implemented.
Seems like an odd thing to worry about. We could implement expiration dates on your recordings now if we wanted. But we don't.

You are far more likely to lose local recordings due to hard drive or STB failure.
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Old 12-02-2016, 10:10   #474
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Seems like an odd thing to worry about. We could implement expiration dates on your recordings now if we wanted. But we don't.

You are far more likely to lose local recordings due to hard drive or STB failure.
Agreed but then the decision with regards to cloud recordings isn't yours to make being that you don't hold the rights to any of the content. There's a reason cloud recording hasn't been more widely deployed and that's rights issues just look at the mess VM has made with multiroom streaming , it's a lottery on which channels you can and can't stream.
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Old 12-02-2016, 10:14   #475
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1 - no.
2 - no comment.
3 - nope.
I would have thought the new box would mirror Sky Q's box in terms of hard drive and 4K. Not sure how many tuners VM will go with.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:34   #476
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Agreed but then the decision with regards to cloud recordings isn't yours to make being that you don't hold the rights to any of the content.
That's no different to the situation now. If the content owner made us expire your recordings, we would - just like we prevent access to Sky recordings when you unsubscribe, because that's a condition imposed by Sky.

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There's a reason cloud recording hasn't been more widely deployed and that's rights issues
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just look at the mess VM has made with multiroom streaming , it's a lottery on which channels you can and can't stream.
It is not a lottery.
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It is not a lottery.
OK but it's less than ideal I'm sure you'll agree on that.
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Old 12-02-2016, 12:21   #478
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OK but it's less than ideal I'm sure you'll agree on that.
Yes, that's one way to put it
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It increasingly seems like the cloud PVR's time will have already passed by the time the technology actually gets deployed with so much now available on-demand.
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It increasingly seems like the cloud PVR's time will have already passed by the time the technology actually gets deployed with so much now available on-demand.
The trouble with on demand is that the programmes are taken off again too quickly and you lose track of what you want to see.

I think that each on demand service should have a section for the programmes you select to see and remember where you are in the programme or series, with a clear 'watch by' date. The absence of this facility explains why I need a 1TB box for my recordings!
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