General : Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)

[Ultimate.Conj]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

The current V+ HD box swap activity is due to changes to how Sky Sports and Movies HD are broadcast. Nothing to do with the Olympics at this stage.

Hi Ben, do you know if the Samsung V+HD boxes will be affected at all?

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

I think that there will be a new box and also a major update of all the older Tivo boxes as well?

That may be the case. There was an update that the US Premier Tivo got around Feb/March last year that we haven't had yet. One part of it was enabling Amazon Prime. There were other aspects as well though.

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Hi Ben, do you know if the Samsung V+HD boxes will be affected at all?

Samsung V+ boxes do mpeg 4.

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Hi Ben, do you know if the Samsung V+HD boxes will be affected at all?

The Samsung boxes are backwards compatible as they will both MPEG 2/4 ,The SA will only do MPEG 2

Originally Posted by passingbat

That may be the case. There was an update that the US Premier Tivo got around Feb/March last year that we haven't had yet. One part of it was enabling Amazon Prime. There were other aspects as well though..

Yep that was my thinking as well

[Ultimate.Conj]

Cheers the replies, guys

[mike_gain]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I would definitely be interested in your reasons for asking such a question.

Have you heard a rumour or do you have insight? I remember another interestingly worded post from you a while ago that suggested it may be the latter.

That would be telling :-P

Seriously though the prospect of a new box would have implications for the existing platform. We'd have to hope that if there is a new box that its software is on the same software branch as the existing box so that we don't get in the situation where users of the existing platform miss out on updates only done in the new box's code branch. But that too may present its own problems.

Going by how the last Tivo box was released I'd expect if there is to be a new box that we'll hear about it very soon (assuming VM are not designating September as summer).

Originally Posted by passingbat

So why was I offered a loyalty discount without asking?

Well this was my 11th year customer loyalty discount

Line Rental

Caller Display

Talk 08 5

Multi Talk 1000

Talk Unlimited

Fully Itemised Billing

TV Size: XL

TiVo Monthly Fee 2 Tivos

TV Size: XL

VIVID 200 Optical Fibre

Sky Movies 2 Sky Movies 1 Sky Sports 1 Sky Sports 2

Sky Premium HD

Big Kahuna Sports and Movies Bundle total. £123.00

Promotional offer(s)

Welcome Offer - 9 Month Saving, Ends on 15-OCT-16 ( nice they do that)

9 Months Sky Sports Discount Which Will End on 08-OCT-16

Promotional offer(s)CR £53.00


Phone line rental total£0.00

Premium add-ons

Sports Collection Offer

Premium add-ons total£0.00

Your package total£70.00

Other fees, charges & credits

One-off charges & credits Date Amount
Broadband Charge Correction 17 December CR £6.00

One-off charges & credits totalCR £6.00

Other fees, charges & credits totalCR £6.00

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by mike_gain

That would be telling :-P

Seriously though the prospect of a new box would have implications for the existing platform. We'd have to hope that if there is a new box that its software is on the same software branch as the existing box so that we don't get in the situation where users of the existing platform miss out on updates only done in the new box's code branch. But that too may present its own problems.

If they are going to do a decent update from the current Tivo, that will be partially unavoidable.

For example, in the US, the Roamio got the Amazon Prime update several months before the Premier (which the VM Tivo is based on), and there will come a time when the Premier won't get updates. The Premier surely must be coming to the end of it's potential upgrade life for any significant functionality additions.

And it's not unreasonable that a new box will have functionality that just can't be added to the old box.

This is why I wonder where VM will pitch their new box. If the are looking at competing with Sky Q, it must be at least an enhanced Bolt based box, which will run a different update path to the current Tivo. Or will they go for essentially the current Tivo with beefed up hardware i.e. faster processor, bigger hard drive and maybe an extra couple of tuners.

[1701-e]

Originally Posted by steveh

Rights for the Olympics this time have gone to Eurosport

FYI Olympics are still with BBC until 2020.
Discovery from 2022 with BBC sub licencing for 2022 & 2024.

[nicknewark]

TIVO should have been great and VM have missed an opportunity to make it so. It's slow, clunky and sometimes unresponsive. I didn't think I would leave VM, but my contract is up soon, and I'm not going to renew. TIVO IMO is a very flawed product.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by nicknewark

TIVO should have been great and VM have missed an opportunity to make it so. It's slow, clunky and sometimes unresponsive. I didn't think I would leave VM, but my contract is up soon, and I'm not going to renew. TIVO IMO is a very flawed product.

The Tivo hasn't always been slow - mine was pretty nifty when we first got it.

You might want to hold off doing anything until we get more information on the new model, rumoured to be coming in the summer.

[Media Boy UK]

Our Virgin Media UK sources say:

New tivo coming in time for the Olympics.

The new TiVo box will do more than three new things - (Media Boy HQ can't post what they are due to an DNP order).

Beat this if you can:

Yesterday someone in my family said goodbye to an old V+ HD box. They got an new V+ HD Box.

The Virgin Media UK Worker told them the following:

You well look after that old Telewest TV Drive box.

You has it since September 13th 2006.

I say if it ain't broke don't fix it.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Our Virgin Media UK sources say:

New tivo coming in time for the Olympics.

The new TiVo box will do more than three new things - (Media Boy HQ can't post what they are due to an DNP order).

Beat this if you can:

Yesterday someone in my family said goodbye to an old V+ HD box. They got an new V+ HD Box.

The Virgin Media UK Worker told them the following:



I say if it ain't broke don't fix it.

I've had my zx spectrum 128k since 1989 and it still works

[nialli]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The Tivo hasn't always been slow - mine was pretty nifty when we first got it.

You might want to hold off doing anything until we get more information on the new model, rumoured to be coming in the summer.

I have a pair of TiVos, both around a year old. My 1TB box isn't too slow and seems to perform acceptably, but the Samsung 500Gb TiVo that I got to replace an ancient Samsung V+ is painfully slow to load even the My Shows menu, and I can go off an make a cup of tea whilst waiting for the On Demand menus.
And if I launch iPlayer I have time to drink said tea before I can watch a programme...

[mike_gain]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

I've had my zx spectrum 128k since 1989 and it still works

Same boat, although mine is the 48k rubber key beast. Although it is easier and quicker to power up my Pi and run an emulator.

Back on topic, having looked at the Sky Q offering in some detail I don't think there's much VM need to do to bring the TiVO into line. My main gripe is that since moving to the Haxe platform both my boxes have become that little but less reliable.

Sky Q isn't really doing anything that new, just making some things more straight forward (e.g. multiroom, downloading content to mobile devices) and it doesn't seem to have wishlists or auto clash resolution. If VM can produce a new box, or at the very least new software, that is that little bit more reliable then I think they'll still have a competitive offering. The risk will be if they've invested too much in some fancy new feature that doesn't quite work right or is severely restricted due to licensing.

[nicknewark]

My TIvo is really laggy, you get used to it after a few years being that way, but having used other boxes recently, you realise how slow and unresponsive it is. I personally can't wait to see the back of it. Personal choice I know.

My decision does also involve cost cutting as well, so I don't want to be to tough on Tivo as aspects of it are good, but it was not made the best of by VM.